From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Calling (package-initialize) sooner during initialization Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:28:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20150411231042.GA25541@odonien> <20150412082125.GA490@odonien> <20150412100724.GA3498@odonien> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428834494 27976 80.91.229.3 (12 Apr 2015 10:28:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:28:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel To: Vasilij Schneidermann Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 12 12:28:09 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YhF7Y-0002hF-Gt for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 12:28:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44816 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhF7X-0004Si-Un for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 06:28:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:42929) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhF7U-0004Sa-CZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 06:28:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhF7T-0007AW-MI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 06:28:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d]:34020) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhF7T-0007AN-FD for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 06:28:03 -0400 Original-Received: by laat2 with SMTP id t2so39208537laa.1 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 03:28:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=NQ6kkzDkTmKrJ/CJpHvvwbvj9cwk4b2UhqSvoeplrtQ=; b=iZBhymQzQvYB8aavQBO9U4bsNiQuE3oJXqrBR5ltM0cINPMOzSr88+ZFZ8GiH7H8F6 N/PF4o7jn1Kx72Xz5ChUr9ptORjGXCuZL4P6B27vTtUY4io6CwCrKgDSue/dcVOZWWH4 vHa2KhoVa8SsRVJh0/ceZ8AuBv9WCQRxEQc6KfL/OBMCcrIwz2WOhfN/DOcjKBB+cDzu GWKdyy/moj9iAtMLOL8VyUrm2v1Z+k5Yfz1/6KSpvQSWoB1Fd1REIyOydq/776EpUwu+ UuLsNqi67Mkyq7cCWM7yNxm/boPS4O8gzzIBWcXY3gfxRkOuhSAd9Ps+0+TW1O9vvmrQ AtUQ== X-Received: by 10.152.43.110 with SMTP id v14mr8662205lal.4.1428834482674; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 03:28:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.150.131 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 03:28:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20150412100724.GA3498@odonien> X-Google-Sender-Auth: k6BmuwcPZLQiRDjMJu5pki6zUj4 X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185327 Archived-At: > GNU ELPA's homepage is minimal. I agree Gelpa's frontpage needs a bit more information (not a lot, though, it's good that it's not cluttered), regardless of the fate of this discussion. > MELPA's "Getting started" page explains the need for and placement of (package-initialize) reasonably well, > perhaps an explanation of the gotchas involved would be useful. > Marmalade has an interactive walkthrough, yet doesn't mention > (package-initialize) at all. Both archives have Github repos (and very responsive maintainers) where you can file suggestions.