From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: On language-dependent defaults for character-folding Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:55:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: <56BA27BF.1090303@cs.ucla.edu> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1455098198 20830 80.91.229.3 (10 Feb 2016 09:56:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 09:56:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Paul Eggert , emacs-devel To: Pierpaolo Bernardi Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 10 10:56:37 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1aTRVi-0000DH-Uo for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:56:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37471 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTRVi-0004Uy-GJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 04:56:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:41480) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTRVU-0004UW-M9 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 04:56:21 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTRVT-00026P-SF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 04:56:20 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-yk0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22b]:34962) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1aTRVT-00025y-NX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 04:56:19 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-yk0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id r207so5555798ykd.2 for ; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=FenIFPRsmoXhKa7w4oOJ0GJwFoPuR/FTOpCiN/ghkKQ=; b=trMWltU5hxItGk923BflL6wP90YTilzRzWxv1a9nc9pkhiTrzWBUtosscU5fSYvIJU ThuEDGQkP8Xa2QsT/i+G2oZs/XgYF4+RyL89l4dwog3FODbbHBkLotbeYt/jEr0n7UN+ i4KV3Y5dP/eJYP+uVX/i5woFAE+5IXq9/JFS3yCJ07OQL98EQignSK4fojAoI2QzDc+8 3DQWdf+Vx2R4qyloy2ZMX18DYZFiNRkipvwXmY9UrTdjZzgu19yd7mdWzXA8yBJDG6Cs MpKEoqWLRydE6l5O+JhECOFy36lbWRniPyIfxZ48QBNowzRBEfTHljqILMxBcUCO5tAp uLcQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to :references:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=FenIFPRsmoXhKa7w4oOJ0GJwFoPuR/FTOpCiN/ghkKQ=; b=N3Z9RSJvVOd12w68Phqyewkn7Kzy91nNYVsjyPorYNcCQRetQ9eoAGoAbUPVfZ8Z+a D9/hYy3JOq23xt6coJ1D8qaivSpVZcAj77aAH5QD2xwCtb3sm4pkMXsB00hTHdS/dE1B dHNjFnrn8WGnfAXy5fFOGNcTbmNVgmWum5Bx12IGho1xP88itKlHRc+zA8/+s5Zq5yib 1yqx6WQEs3XV8A0dSoGNZpSlW/xF32t8UDzMBUv2WM+qbgvnbE3xcxnjqscM2tcHQnAZ SLxIn1uLKut81RDFEfYYBvv39GI53Ym2zR/6KXXxENTZItWXJXMj5oZFsapddzB4gaP3 n0EQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YORF+fT22bWlMEIOCg5tMfdLzue/GIuHSYKzfeXggN7pQ/sixmF3jjlSR7qi8GP5DXqupyhzhic4VxRn2Q== X-Received: by 10.37.231.194 with SMTP id e185mr12769379ybh.11.1455098179264; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:56:19 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.129.79.83 with HTTP; Wed, 10 Feb 2016 01:55:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: xxmoIMLNBbjTN2zvI19HWH2onAU X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4002:c07::22b X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:199686 Archived-At: On 10 February 2016 at 03:01, Pierpaolo Bernardi wrote: >> Except for the word "random", yes, that was the proposal. Why do you feel >> that's bad? > > Because I want a consistent behavior. The example I made is not > invented, I use regularly more than one machine. These machines have > different keyboards layouts and drivers, because not all of them are > under my control, and I cannot uniform their hardware and system > software, even if I wished to do so. That's my situation too. Half the time I'm on an english keyboard, where I would be glad if Emacs helped me out with Portuguese diacritics. Of course, that'ts just my opinion. I'd like to understand other people's opinon too.