From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Artur Malabarba Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Calling (package-initialize) sooner during initialization Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 10:58:08 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20150411231042.GA25541@odonien> Reply-To: bruce.connor.am@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0160b6dedd3626051384085b X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1428832697 30452 80.91.229.3 (12 Apr 2015 09:58:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 12 Apr 2015 09:58:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Vasilij Schneidermann , emacs-devel To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Apr 12 11:58:16 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YhEed-0006q3-CO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 11:58:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44767 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhEec-0007wq-PF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 05:58:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:39852) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhEeY-0007wl-UZ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 05:58:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhEeY-0006ls-1A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 05:58:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x229.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::229]:36447) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1YhEeX-0006lk-Pt for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 05:58:09 -0400 Original-Received: by lbbqq2 with SMTP id qq2so39939652lbb.3 for ; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 02:58:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:reply-to:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id :subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=oiNX2ZM0aWCKsYIfX1eCVwKqCq/IlK+08X6VqKIEr9Y=; b=LDTmIVUsP3pczi4w48IahTqtmUeDatfE+0W8EziDI2aS2MDT9k1/2XBQgiEU4Qudhh qqbt7imkElDx6dTYIlBUiQC+So/Zja6wu8+ybrs8LNzBEyCDgPcZ+oKLyxmdABS1vZs8 E8eyRs+H3J9d8OKghD6/jLB0e9CXAn7pxX/wJLDmksAg17dLtyYyOnJ7WSOIG3A5mz7a 37+gq7RGVKK5KpkEqLz3nxtpS8J8OYgyh9ceQaFgqKx/vQggUvleHAM2J2WRz1KKBGmO FJoUaEElmkWCxZCwq4Q8/Nl47KLjZWJxKRB2LOlFQeqPNmwIgfoY9JtUipcHs/gZbga6 xuPg== X-Received: by 10.152.22.229 with SMTP id h5mr8634823laf.21.1428832688877; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 02:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.150.131 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 02:58:08 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.25.150.131 with HTTP; Sun, 12 Apr 2015 02:58:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Google-Sender-Auth: SapZ28BB-TsHQW7R4sTGwowZ-4Y X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::229 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:185324 Archived-At: --089e0160b6dedd3626051384085b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 His suggestion is to disable the loading+ initializing based on an environment variable. On Apr 12, 2015 4:56 AM, "Stefan Monnier" wrote: > > initialization step in startup.el, completely bypassing issues like init > > code possibly getting added multiple times to the file and the general > > annoyance as this cluttering cannot be disabled at all and can happen at > > every installation) and involves more work. > > We discussed this already. There's the issue of configuring package.el > before loading it and/or before calling package-initialize. > > > Stefan > > --089e0160b6dedd3626051384085b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

His suggestion is to disable the loading+ initializing based= on an environment variable.

On Apr 12, 2015 4:56 AM, "Stefan Monnier&qu= ot; <monnier@iro.umontreal.c= a> wrote:
>= ; initialization step in startup.el, completely bypassing issues like init<= br> > code possibly getting added multiple times to the file and the general=
> annoyance as this cluttering cannot be disabled at all and can happen = at
> every installation) and involves more work.

We discussed this already.=C2=A0 There's the issue of configuring packa= ge.el
before loading it and/or before calling package-initialize.


=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Stefan

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