* bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) @ 2015-07-22 9:08 Ali Abdul Ghani 2015-07-23 4:45 ` Xue Fuqiao 2016-07-14 1:01 ` npostavs 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Ali Abdul Ghani @ 2015-07-22 9:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: 21113 hi all emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) I do not know this is called bug or not But its problem for the blinds users It is good When I use it without x but in x its Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) -- Think not of them, thou hast thy music too ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) 2015-07-22 9:08 bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) Ali Abdul Ghani @ 2015-07-23 4:45 ` Xue Fuqiao 2015-07-23 15:35 ` Ali Abdul Ghani 2016-07-14 1:01 ` npostavs 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Xue Fuqiao @ 2015-07-23 4:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ali Abdul Ghani; +Cc: 21113 Hi, I'm not familiar with Orca. Just FYI - you can try Emacspeak, which turns Emacs into a "complete audio desktop". ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) 2015-07-23 4:45 ` Xue Fuqiao @ 2015-07-23 15:35 ` Ali Abdul Ghani 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Ali Abdul Ghani @ 2015-07-23 15:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Xue Fuqiao; +Cc: 21113 > I'm not familiar with Orca. Just FYI - you can try Emacspeak, which > turns Emacs into a "complete audio desktop". its not to gui 2015-07-22 21:45 جرينتش-07:00, Xue Fuqiao <xfq.free@gmail.com>: > Hi, > > I'm not familiar with Orca. Just FYI - you can try Emacspeak, which > turns Emacs into a "complete audio desktop". > -- Think not of them, thou hast thy music too ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) 2015-07-22 9:08 bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) Ali Abdul Ghani 2015-07-23 4:45 ` Xue Fuqiao @ 2016-07-14 1:01 ` npostavs 2016-09-02 3:00 ` npostavs 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: npostavs @ 2016-07-14 1:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ali Abdul Ghani; +Cc: 21113 Ali Abdul Ghani <blade.vp2020@gmail.com> writes: > hi all > emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) I can't tell what is meant by "emacs inaccessibility" exactly. Is this bug the same as #1015, and #4103 (Emacs gtk hangs Orca)?. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) 2016-07-14 1:01 ` npostavs @ 2016-09-02 3:00 ` npostavs 2016-09-02 5:07 ` Glenn Morris 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: npostavs @ 2016-09-02 3:00 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Ali Abdul Ghani; +Cc: 21113 unarchive 1015 forcemerge 1015 21113 quit npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: > Ali Abdul Ghani <blade.vp2020@gmail.com> writes: > >> hi all >> emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) > > I can't tell what is meant by "emacs inaccessibility" exactly. Is this > bug the same as #1015, and #4103 (Emacs gtk hangs Orca)?. I will assume yes. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) 2016-09-02 3:00 ` npostavs @ 2016-09-02 5:07 ` Glenn Morris 2016-09-02 23:32 ` npostavs 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Glenn Morris @ 2016-09-02 5:07 UTC (permalink / raw) To: npostavs; +Cc: Ali Abdul Ghani, 21113 npostavs@users.sourceforge.net wrote: >> I can't tell what is meant by "emacs inaccessibility" exactly. Is this >> bug the same as #1015, and #4103 (Emacs gtk hangs Orca)?. > > I will assume yes. I don't think this has anything to do with 1015. It seems pretty clear to me from the original report. When run in graphical mode, Emacs is not accessible to the Orca screen reader. Ie, Orca cannot read the text in Emacs. One has to run "emacs -nw" in eg a gnome-terminal to get things to work. Ref eg https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2015-October/msg00278.html ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) 2016-09-02 5:07 ` Glenn Morris @ 2016-09-02 23:32 ` npostavs 2021-01-21 14:19 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: npostavs @ 2016-09-02 23:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Glenn Morris; +Cc: 21113, Ali Abdul Ghani # restoring severity from before mistake merge severity 21113 important quit Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> writes: > npostavs@users.sourceforge.net wrote: > >>> I can't tell what is meant by "emacs inaccessibility" exactly. Is this >>> bug the same as #1015, and #4103 (Emacs gtk hangs Orca)?. >> >> I will assume yes. > > I don't think this has anything to do with 1015. > It seems pretty clear to me from the original report. > > When run in graphical mode, Emacs is not accessible to the Orca screen reader. > Ie, Orca cannot read the text in Emacs. > > One has to run "emacs -nw" in eg a gnome-terminal to get things to work. > > Ref eg https://mail.gnome.org/archives/orca-list/2015-October/msg00278.html Oh, I see, the term "accessibility" has a very particular meaning in the context of screen readers (I had thought it was just odd word choice in the original report). ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) 2016-09-02 23:32 ` npostavs @ 2021-01-21 14:19 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen 2021-01-21 14:37 ` ali abdul ghani6 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-01-21 14:19 UTC (permalink / raw) To: npostavs; +Cc: Ali Abdul Ghani, Glenn Morris, 21113 npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: > Oh, I see, the term "accessibility" has a very particular meaning in the > context of screen readers (I had thought it was just odd word choice in > the original report). I found this bug report pretty confusing, too, but the request is for Emacs to support the Orca screen reader, which is a Gnome thing. To do this, Emacs has to implement a Gnome API: https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/introduction.html.en The report states that "emacs -nw" works fine -- but according to some experimentation, that seems to be because Terminal (the Gnome xterm-a-like) supports Orca. Emacs itself doesn't support Orca at all. I know nothing about these things, so I wonder: Is Orca used much? Are there other competing screen-reader APIs that would be better to focus on? Is Orca more convenient to use than Emacspeak? -- (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* bug#21113: emacs Inaccessibility to Screen reader(orca) 2021-01-21 14:19 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen @ 2021-01-21 14:37 ` ali abdul ghani6 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: ali abdul ghani6 @ 2021-01-21 14:37 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Lars Ingebrigtsen; +Cc: Glenn Morris, 21113, npostavs > I know nothing about these things, so I wonder: Is Orca used much? yes > there other competing screen-reader APIs that would be better to focus no > Is Orca more convenient to use than Emacspeak? yes 2021-01-21 6:19 غرينتش-08:00, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>: > npostavs@users.sourceforge.net writes: > >> Oh, I see, the term "accessibility" has a very particular meaning in the >> context of screen readers (I had thought it was just odd word choice in >> the original report). > > I found this bug report pretty confusing, too, but the request is for > Emacs to support the Orca screen reader, which is a Gnome thing. > > To do this, Emacs has to implement a Gnome API: > > https://help.gnome.org/users/orca/stable/introduction.html.en > > The report states that "emacs -nw" works fine -- but according to some > experimentation, that seems to be because Terminal (the Gnome > xterm-a-like) supports Orca. Emacs itself doesn't support Orca at all. > > I know nothing about these things, so I wonder: Is Orca used much? Are > there other competing screen-reader APIs that would be better to focus > on? Is Orca more convenient to use than Emacspeak? > > -- > (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.) > bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no > -- Emacs is the ground. We run around and act silly on top of it, and when we die, may our remnants grace its ongoing incrementation. ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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