From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: ChangeLog to *VC-log* Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 15:16:01 +0800 Message-ID: References: <56BE7E37.3090708@cs.ucla.edu> <4hd1rw1ubr.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <83vb50wxhv.fsf@gnu.org> <87y49vz4cg.fsf@acer.localhost.com> <20160306220502.GA23154@thyrsus.com> <8760wx442f.fsf@mat.ucm.es> <87si00srmo.fsf_-_@gmx.net> <40522b1b-fc32-1a6c-9e69-e1df628d85a0@yandex.ru> <87oaaosh51.fsf@gmx.net> <1c5d8058-d7ed-1e2f-f83d-a3241ec7040c@yandex.ru> <878u1rih47.fsf@gmx.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1457594180 28500 80.91.229.3 (10 Mar 2016 07:16:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2016 07:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-devel , Stefan Monnier , Dmitry Gutov To: Stephen Berman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Mar 10 08:16:13 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1adupL-0005H0-Uc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 08:16:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46677 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adupL-0003Aa-5M for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 02:16:07 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:51380) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adupH-00039r-La for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 02:16:04 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adupG-0006OB-MW for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 02:16:03 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ig0-x22f.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22f]:37271) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1adupG-0006Nm-Gv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 10 Mar 2016 02:16:02 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ig0-x22f.google.com with SMTP id z8so11381382ige.0 for ; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 23:16:02 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc; bh=0zY8micM+7d0H4dYIQ+l/KIML0Kh8i8Bn59svWCbUNk=; b=SACqE1mVtKMfnk/FmO/aedwpDQ+5wIF9xnKO6umnpvAuUY1/s5qxXocTsObPUnY3Dg 76mVKy9G28JZ+HCz2XSqy86pNy9epdzS5NkUPB2UiVyRkGwJg4LMRrBosqYOOC420WaX 6XZ1EqAyuXirsjySPi6KAv9bS0ceoEnnMB7voU3Lpm78e+8aX6+5I2erGH1hfK9+BO8Y y7ssxJxl4sPjeDYHLaWQILr+oaWtzJv8BOBqm/4ykylaHO3jdgcbznRRNJAhTP5xooLz NmiOL84gjqK/h+Rj4lAf3xYsNQWWFAbPQLSqZOxhbGCiT7Y9LyrxwPqhvlLZcyINZx1t 4VPg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc; bh=0zY8micM+7d0H4dYIQ+l/KIML0Kh8i8Bn59svWCbUNk=; b=abNKZmWjUpSyFDXAo3SnffEp+z7ruvFhKvU3ttxcp41L1RqAddjVDzaGwu2Govat7O UeIVxU33ECvaU/OMPz4n2jUz1xTbG2Iw+ZDMeezwYbWn3i3BC2Qnon5XaXu6rAkehnl9 JRCpmEF91KblAZl3wwl4bppbhYooZ6Gz90FHmtx/snNaT3s50oTsbv2PkXgnLL24Qway Y41DWS8NkfDAKUk3ofrOZ3BU22VF8GdttZCZ9k+PEVy2ly1+snB1YSzoNPDb33J1ozrJ B6wAJ9U2B0FwAvHqUoJPnEy926xX69kneE+tx28317VounFYSgf+VIu2UKaQr0fzfPwj zOWQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AD7BkJLUVSJPAbAvYfoKoomFEjg4TM8Tn/ZjtdpxMSGhoXLtjsE5MHeAYoduaE3/Axyuab93Dw+AnfLMUHHaaQ== X-Received: by 10.50.132.68 with SMTP id os4mr2108614igb.91.1457594161752; Wed, 09 Mar 2016 23:16:01 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.79.127.3 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Mar 2016 23:16:01 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <878u1rih47.fsf@gmx.net> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::22f X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:201357 Archived-At: On Thu, Mar 10, 2016 at 3:30 AM, Stephen Berman wrote: Hi Stephen, > I found the cause of the change in behavior I observed: it's due to the > elimination of files named "ChangeLog" from the Emacs sources (there are > now only files named "ChangeLog."). In consequence, find-change-log > creates an empty file named "ChangeLog" in the immediate directory of > the file in which `C-x 4 a' was invoked, e.g. in lisp/calendar/, when > I'm editing todo-mode.el; previously, `C-x 4 a' found lisp/ChangeLog. I > guess those who don't see this keep an non-VCS-tracked file "ChangeLog" > at top level. > > If we don't return to maintaining versioned ChangeLog files, I think it > would be desirable for `C-x 4 a' to always create (or find) the file > "ChangeLog" at top level when editing Emacs sources, since this would > add the required directory levels to the commit message. (Of course, > people could just always use `C-u C-x 4 a', but that's not as > convenient.) Since other projects that could use `C-x 4 a' may have > different requirements on its effect, this should be conditioned by a > user option (or maybe just a plain variable), which can (and probably > should) be set in .dir-locals.el. What do others think? Does commit dc435af152e6df3d85b0c21eaf9ff39dce0091bb fix this issue? (I'm not sure if I understand the issue at hand correctly, because I don't use 'C-x 4 a' very often.)