From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Xue Fuqiao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: CUA mode??? Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 07:15:39 +0800 Message-ID: References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> <87vbxzy3m4.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <87ha9jeduw.fsf_-_@slice.rozzin.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1388963739 13693 80.91.229.3 (5 Jan 2014 23:15:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jan 2014 23:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel devel , Joshua Judson Rosen To: Lennart Borgman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Jan 06 00:15:47 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzwv4-0003F5-Kz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 00:15:46 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59750 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzwv4-0007wM-6k for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:15:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48725) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzwuz-0007wG-Fz for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:15:42 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzwuy-0004QB-Dp for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:15:41 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-ie0-x231.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4001:c03::231]:62787) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzwuy-0004Q7-7c for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 18:15:40 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-ie0-f177.google.com with SMTP id tp5so17850512ieb.22 for ; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:15:39 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=9/SKpI59WSqOaTCjY0q8oxdCDQFa4UCDLqHgyC6Fwh0=; b=dKZZCxcDTA3UjuOshtsn5D1G888yyOY+JvBfEfcF/CsM/pWwfJ60waWWi1hb8qKmF0 DU4MZ56bFoBX3IWglTvxeBglFerkhGKP39QY5vzSiK9CuoCBcsgVopWBGzp4ARqP2+KS 724tcv3Kmss/xoiy2rL/4QGRan8L580TgXry7my9eSAZG9NidYn5rs96nJdszqApzZvY K8/9hUnXkzZnJZwk/PD2QYHiy/2aE/WXfqWDt0rRJEeb2930gRAgPhdVm2OW86VUmMxP kjOoLdBJoL4VCJvvoxpAwVV4lfN9C6u8PFL1q/3SdyWfOLGoihjDx75KuM30NK2wBDNx 8unQ== X-Received: by 10.42.215.80 with SMTP id hd16mr74308579icb.17.1388963739173; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:15:39 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.42.239.142 with HTTP; Sun, 5 Jan 2014 15:15:39 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::231 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167408 Archived-At: On Sun, Jan 5, 2014 at 7:38 AM, Lennart Borgman wrote: >> Also, didn't cua-mode already `fix' this: >> >> http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/emacs/CUA-Bindings.html >> >> Though that brings me to something that's been bugging me since someone >> first told me (last year) that cua-mode had actually gone into emacs: >> my recollection from the early 1990s was that the CUA keystrokes for >> cut, copy, and paste were *not* C-x, C-c, and C-v; but rather >> S-delete, C-insert, and S-insert (respectively). These were the >> keystrokes that I remember using in Windows at the time, and >> what I've also been using in Emacs and other applications in X11 >> since about that time, and even what I used in applications on >> Mac OS X when I needed to use it just a couple of years ago. >> >> Wikipedia seems to agree with my memory rather than what's in the Emacs >> manual: >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_User_Access >> >> Did the CUA spec actually change to use C-x, C-c, C-v at some point, or >> is Emacs cua-mode mistaken about which standard it's implementing? > > Ah, so you mean that cua-mode was also badly named in Emacs in should be > renamed? ;-) Eli said that there's more than one interpretation of CUA: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2013-04/msg00499.html -- http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/