From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Jacob Gerlach Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Frustrated with Font issues Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 15:17:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <871tv35kbh.fsf@kuiper.lan.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1401996601 21374 80.91.229.3 (5 Jun 2014 19:30:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2014 19:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Cc: "Pascal J. Bourguignon" , help-gnu-emacs To: Jai Dayal Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 05 21:29:57 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WsdAq-0005Xr-0S for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 21:18:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43398 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsdAp-0007EB-DM for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:18:03 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38707) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsdAc-0007E6-12 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:17:51 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsdAZ-0001RC-38 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:17:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qa0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c]:33967) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WsdAY-0001Qy-TG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 15:17:47 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qa0-f44.google.com with SMTP id j7so2016547qaq.31 for ; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:17:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0kSGleahfMvwIkzKn9XYydVCrssqivJ5lT9kZfD3Gak=; b=OCE87a5Ttc7v4Elu9rFZ/Js7Fpg2q3rTOxjMsZkgNbuLNTx4ut1D1LNx2VUSAHAUPr n+n6elAlVFex6ovsYu+g5bK87Nm03QxhQrMF/x+R/hsU3jFr7oIJ09XudbRxLMQUI/XE 2IuSgj+U8/CpIVa5ofH32AqGByeOe13tKkvGtxX/2lsq4uehPf5R8bqHJAE4kmPVnsfZ EtP/X3DIC5xevbSWd06WHyaxLzaejyorq/r/zijgkF8f9W5iri81LiWAvu4L0rcqSIxz gYtox9EDnPtEah1jeWSmKIKiD+M6WKrm8JzAXXiwSXz4QBomN9FOFiokzhKve1koxd4r sqag== X-Received: by 10.140.50.2 with SMTP id r2mr84679909qga.96.1401995866116; Thu, 05 Jun 2014 12:17:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.229.239.6 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Jun 2014 12:17:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::22c X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:98025 Archived-At: I'm not sure what you mean by "have the same font set," particularly in response to Pascal's comments re: the difference between set-frame-font and M-x menu-set-font I have the following in my .emacs: (set-frame-font "Ubuntu Mono-13") I can put any font on my system in place of Ubuntu Mono, be it monospaced, variable pitch, or some nonsense like "Symbol". There is no "set" to choose from. Are you perhaps trying to say that a given font looks different in emacs compared to how it looks in other applications? On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:06 PM, Jai Dayal wrote: > With set-frame-font, it doesn't have the same font set as other > applications, though! That's the problem! They're not the same, at all. > > > > > On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Pascal J. Bourguignon < > pjb@informatimago.com> wrote: > > > Jai Dayal writes: > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > I am using RHEL 6.5 and am running emacs 24.3 with a GUI. The fonts > look > > > absolutely horrible, and the fonts that I have available via > > set-frame-font > > > are atrocious as well. I have asked in several places about this issue, > > and > > > I'm always blown off and told "blahh set something something in > > > .Xresources", but nothing ever specific. > > > > > > People have said that it's an issue with X11, but I'm not convinced; > > every > > > other GUI application has normal looking fonts. Even the GUI version of > > Vim > > > has normal fonts; how can it be an X server or RHEL problem when every > > > other application has a sufficient set of fonts to use? This is clearly > > an > > > Emacs problem at this point. > > > > > > If I use emacs in the terminal without X the fonts look fine. My > terminal > > > says the font is "Monospace 10", and if I do C-u C-x = I get > > > display: terminal code #x3B > > > > > > When I do C-u C-x = with GUI emacs, I get: > > > -adobe-courier-medium-r-normal--14-100-100-100-m-90-iso10646-1 > > > > > > Which is a font made available when I do M-x set-frame-font > > > > > > Is there not a way to allow Emacs to use the same set of fonts that > every > > > other X11 application uses? How can it be that Emacs fonts suck when > > other > > > applications have normal fonts? > > > > When you use set-frame-font, you can use the exact same fonts as other > > applications. This is what I do, to select the exact fonts I want to > > use. Currently (frame-font) --> > > "-unknown-DejaVu Sans > Mono-normal-normal-normal-*-13-*-*-*-m-0-iso10646-1" > > > > (frame-font is from > > https://gitorious.org/com-informatimago/emacs/source/pjb-xresources.el) > > > > > > When you use M-x menu-set-font RET you get a font menu with pre-selected > > font families. There's a way to configure this menu with your own font > > families, but it seems to have changed in emacs 24, so I'm not sure how > > to do it anymore. > > > > > > Have a look at: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/SetFonts > > > > > > > > > > -- > > __Pascal Bourguignon__ > > http://www.informatimago.com/ > > "Le mercure monte ? C'est le moment d'acheter !" > > >