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[209.85.166.54]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k192sm289502ite.36.2019.05.15.09.23.22 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=AEAD-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 15 May 2019 09:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by mail-io1-f54.google.com with SMTP id m7so53829ioa.6 for ; Wed, 15 May 2019 09:23:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 2002:a5d:9c0d:: with SMTP id 13mr5271847ioe.160.1557937402013; Wed, 15 May 2019 09:23:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83r28z8zl9.fsf@gnu.org> X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::12d X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120404 Archived-At: On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 6:14 PM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: =C3=93scar Fuentes > > Date: Wed, 15 May 2019 17:40:24 +0200 > > > > Eli Zaretskii writes: > > > > > Case in point: IDE features. We know for a long time we lag in this > > > department, and there were numerous calls for working on the related > > > features. The result is before your eyes. > > > > Take a look outside Savannah and you will see that quite a lot of work > > was done on that regard, at least for C++ IDE features. > > > > The key part of the above paragraph is "outside Savannah". > > "Outside Savannah" is not relevant when we talk about Emacs. Assuming that the authors have no problem assigning their copyrights to FSF, what prevents the outside work from being integrated into Emacs in Savannah to improve Emacs's C++ IDE features? --=20 Best regards, Tadeus