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From: Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
To: Achim Gratz <Stromeko@nexgo.de>
Cc: emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: missing autoload cookies for defcustom?
Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2011 07:26:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA660C21-BF9E-43D5-9FE3-B69CA2879846@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87ehymb07o.fsf@Rainer.invalid>


On 9.10.2011, at 18:26, Achim Gratz wrote:

> Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> writes:
>> This is not correct for Org when it is distributed with Emacs.  Emacs
>> builds its own autoload files, and it would pull in all these defcustoms.
> 
> I see, so what about those autoloaded defcustoms org-mode already has
> picked up?  Should they not be removed, then?

Good question. Not sure.

> 
> lisp/ob-tangle.el: (defcustom org-babel-tangle-lang-exts
> lisp/org-export-generic.el: (defcustom org-export-generic-links-to-notes t
> lisp/org-man.el: (defcustom org-man-command 'man
> 
> It seems that this would be a common problem, but I can't find a better
> solution.  Something like a special autoload cookie that only triggers
> on some other function (or possibly autoload)...
> 
>> The work-around Org itself provides is to provide a command to load all
>> the autolod files, so that then, the defcustoms will be available.
>> The function is `org-require-autoloaded-modules'.  Also, if you
>> run `M-x org-customize', this will happen automatically.
>> 
>> Maybe we just need to document this in a good place?
> 
> Sure, I certainly didn't know about it - but then it probably still
> misses the target audience.
> 
> Also, it seems that not all defcustoms are picked up that way: after
> switching to the Org customize group via customize-group I only get
> about 500 completions for customize-variable, whereas the sources have
> over 700.  Calling org-customize manually increases the number of
> "known" variables to 679, but still not all of them.

Yes, this might be possible.  I think it does not pick up modules that can, but have not been, requested via the `org-modules' variable.  I.e. once you have decided to use a module and turned it on with org-modules, you should get your variables defined with org-customize.

Regards

- Carsten


> 
> 
> Regards,
> Achim.
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      reply	other threads:[~2011-10-10  5:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-09 15:20 missing autoload cookies for defcustom? Achim Gratz
2011-10-09 15:50 ` Carsten Dominik
2011-10-09 16:26   ` Achim Gratz
2011-10-10  5:26     ` Carsten Dominik [this message]

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