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From: Damien Cassou <damien.cassou@gmail.com>
To: Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu>
Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp?
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2014 17:43:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+y5ggg08nhGqnULLCenp7xEP+O3xAiNVYCL+qVnRv3Xq7-QaA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <barmar-0ABAEB.10430318062014@news.eternal-september.org>

On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Barry Margolin <barmar@alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> Why? Just to avoid having to do (require 'cl)? Or are you suggesting
> that they should be rewritten in C and made primitive subrs?
>


I think Nicolas' problem is not the language in which the functions are
implemented. In my opinion, the problems are:

- that a (large) library must be loaded to have these 2 core functions
(select a subset of elements, select one element). And this library is not
required for similar functions like mapcar

- that the name of the cl-lib functions are all prefixed by 'cl-' which
makes them look weird for core functions

I don't think Nicolas cares about the exact same features as cl-remove-if
and cl-find-if. A very simple alternative (i.e., without the &rest cl-keys)
would do the job.

-- 
Damien Cassou
http://damiencassou.seasidehosting.st

"Success is the ability to go from one failure to another without losing
enthusiasm."
Winston Churchill


  reply	other threads:[~2014-06-18 15:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-17 17:13 Why aren't `find`, `find-if`, `remove-if` part of Emacs Lisp? Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 17:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-17 18:36   ` Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 18:56     ` Doug Lewan
2014-06-17 19:06       ` Nicolas Petton
2014-06-17 19:55         ` Doug Lewan
2014-06-17 22:16     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-18 11:00       ` Nicolas Petton
     [not found]       ` <mailman.3879.1403089222.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-18 14:36         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-18 14:43         ` Barry Margolin
2014-06-18 15:43           ` Damien Cassou [this message]
2014-06-18 16:31             ` Phillip Lord
     [not found]           ` <mailman.3896.1403106263.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-24 13:51             ` Christoph Wedler
2014-06-24 16:24               ` Barry Margolin
2014-06-25  3:22                 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25  4:08                   ` Leo Liu
     [not found]                   ` <mailman.4252.1403669342.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-25 13:46                     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.4251.1403666567.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-25 10:24                   ` Christoph Wedler
2014-06-25 13:35                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 14:09                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-25 15:37                     ` Barry Margolin
2014-06-25 23:44                       ` Robert Thorpe
2014-06-18 14:43         ` Pascal J. Bourguignon
     [not found] ` <mailman.3837.1403026153.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-20  0:20   ` WJ
2014-06-20 13:45     ` Stefan Monnier
     [not found] <mailman.3836.1403025251.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-17 21:42 ` Barry Margolin
     [not found] <mailman.4322.1403739913.1147.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2014-06-26  0:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2014-06-26  5:27 ` Barry Margolin

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