From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: James Freer Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs for email: Rmail v VM v Gnus Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 21:22:37 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87lii0iivf.fsf@olgas.newt.com> <87mx2cspnv.fsf@notengoamigos.org> <87zk6cdk1x.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1344025375 31908 80.91.229.3 (3 Aug 2012 20:22:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2012 20:22:55 +0000 (UTC) Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Sivaram Neelakantan Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 03 22:22:52 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SxOOU-0008Jx-8I for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 22:22:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54733 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxOOT-0005GI-CN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:22:45 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:35200) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxOON-0005G2-Sd for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:22:40 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxOOM-00039Q-HW for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:22:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ee0-f41.google.com ([74.125.83.41]:50985) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1SxOOM-000396-BJ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 16:22:38 -0400 Original-Received: by eeke49 with SMTP id e49so319096eek.0 for ; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:22:37 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=nwIV/TbBY1PZYI/TtIKT8hZTzkVKQFzErMz0DFpAAFI=; b=dUJPXTr7x+tMRIgrYEAc1rDKYg1dbgBIXK+Fs3nXjks+bHpnqW5Ol72ymMoc2pgt6Q DuzXf+2Q9WG6uMkUC5FQXJ0YwlsO4c1KuRSvPZnOAT84VorHwj0bYPH4v6xqx3J/XP0h 6d0MlybqMkN8uqRUaG5O5/0aLRxE/kPPey6XwBlHEM052Yk2yd+FHkiCm2JqRbX8YNm9 rU2cEpYSdmPvzEUrjXqi/7luUdZToMrxDqcExoieukFKWbzvbEHaozvCUvbQBAZ6tbLQ yS1Dy9zIwlJA4yOAa67mWCrKIqg3E/WGoz02zhzMvH3ihviQ8Cv1RBN9SrbCGJRcaD5w PLRA== Original-Received: by 10.14.215.129 with SMTP id e1mr3581345eep.46.1344025357347; Fri, 03 Aug 2012 13:22:37 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.14.187.11 with HTTP; Fri, 3 Aug 2012 13:22:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zk6cdk1x.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 74.125.83.41 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:86188 Archived-At: On 3 August 2012 17:20, Sivaram Neelakantan wrote: > On Fri, Aug 03 2012,Jason Earl wrote: > > > [snipped 38 lines] > >> If you want something that is easy to install then Gnus has the >> advantage of coming pre-installed on recent copies of GNU Emacs. The >> problem with Gnus (if there is a problem) is that it is so ridiculously >> flexible that it can be difficult to configure. >> >> Personally, I think that it is worth the effort, but not everyone feels >> the same way. > > I'd have to say, you have to be daft to use Gnus, which is a sort of > compliment....in a different way. > > I don't know why I use Gnus but I do know that if I use some other > mail client, I feel unhappy with the workflow that the new mail client > imposes on me. So I stick to Gnus. :-) > > As others will attest, Gnus works; its terminology is not exactly > mainstream (heck, if you're using Emacs, you're already a hippie) and > the documentation is huge for a mail client. It sure ain't Apple(TM) > for user friendliness at first. But you keep hammering at it, one day > you will get it; Exhausted by the sunk cost, you will stick to Gnus > for the rest of your email life. > > Trust me, that happens. Look at this crowd on this list! :-) > > Or me. > > sivaram I don't doubt you for a moment. I think the Gnus documentation is excellent... but really too advanced for my needs. I just want something as easy as Thunderbird or similar to set up - just enter in the pop/imap and smtp bits... then use. james