From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Fanael Linithien Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Wish List: support making *scratch* persistent Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 18:07:53 +0200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1507137016 27318 195.159.176.226 (4 Oct 2017 17:10:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 17:10:16 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Richard Stallman To: "Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo" , emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 04 19:10:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dznBO-0005lj-AU for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 19:10:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36183 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dznBT-0006FC-UJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:10:11 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49779) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dzmDE-0007xD-DE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:07:58 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dzmDD-0005EG-Fo for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:07:56 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qk0-x242.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400d:c09::242]:34389) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dzmDD-0005Dh-C6; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 12:07:55 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qk0-x242.google.com with SMTP id b124so5710941qke.1; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 09:07:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9GyWiciFNePTi02kvshjSPtJ5/V/YTsnlbln7R2GP+I=; b=IvgERx4yvyZmAlSBM/16bHgeC1gXKXF4FFkIVI/3lXWbA3KJbOPwA2t+myfJUHBFin 5pVSrxfM8P3wZmImYTGwq8Bb3Aya67as05QNT2uBGYPv+jg6uPKWuz7cHtkM2DqR340J ULsCu1cs0XNWomVHzdKh8sDbgktUJJKGEErid9taBC9uq0svEZbfzyxI83QFRQ+k3/Kw nLrZlKB3YK5LO8eR3Ga2FPXkgj7HActzHi5by6vOoUwGRddb9VW6tp0rw2cWk8ObNjQe m73BftvAiHsD8yQwtrb+piNd554fqFqhiHk6jxxPodigFoz5KRgAtWmbyTHGfPwxVsN6 m83A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=9GyWiciFNePTi02kvshjSPtJ5/V/YTsnlbln7R2GP+I=; b=Xx6NXWq3L8x/WyP+qkT5Q1HBczWv+r0BB3AITjn1gSaLQf2hgTAJ+y/OpMM0jY/dHF ONVmIKPAm59s8vUdDGWP1a9eA2Pd4T3uyv90St1blt32rLdMIcyOCRYXBaP54udk8UKj v9sTaD3Q14D9+hSVxM+D0k1Y76lUEeN8354vhs4kPuFJ2x82R+XjlJ6nTrAj+roDGsSJ gmi91HAD6fk3F7xfj3PeeCL+yJeDyDi2hItVw9/93/ebZJSFRo4Ab8oXBHbwN5nwJJTV h2hAfOxMd5tUp4PL/sl4Z47gUGuudqF56jrF04tmpXMpGTnCTGl4HZDYi3lHcLSj4lbg 6XPQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaWtXDhAMHm7kwf8FcwPp3an98OkWJOkZEa+cZcPXHpyuVjAQeZ4 tObuoWj6c7FP6TFsq/tmQ9W+HFaCgOHhCc6v1+Q= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QB/emIXvGSu2ZfHyyIoNEtAd8KkbiCglHcHUf50amgAzmsiIk12SsobwSOYpntrOkSS+r73YpKV2ukejrc9Pok= X-Received: by 10.55.217.131 with SMTP id q3mr2743151qkl.91.1507133274121; Wed, 04 Oct 2017 09:07:54 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.200.3.36 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Oct 2017 09:07:53 -0700 (PDT) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400d:c09::242 X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 13:09:23 -0400 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219080 Archived-At: 2017-10-03 19:33 GMT+02:00 Jorge A. Alfaro-Murillo : > Richard Stallman writes: > >> > The "persistent-scratch" package available from MELPA does > >> exactly what you want. >> Would someone like to organize getting legal papers for this package, so >> we can include it in Emacs? > > > It seems like Fanael Linithien is the sole author. I'm CC'ing them to know > if they are interested. Can you tell me what exactly do I gain from giving up the copyright to the FSF? My code is free software[1] and I'd prefer it stayed that way. [1] That is, under a *sane* definition that precludes source dumps and other development models not accessible to the general public (like Emacs, where only the FSF can contribute) from being free software on the basis that they merely conform to the letter, not the spirit; being allowed to contribute upstream *is an important freedom* that you lot conveniently omit in your definition.