From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Alin Soare Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Add morph library to emacs Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 04:56:53 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87ty23cy0l.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> <87y5rea2aa.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e86dcf9173c04ba8a3137 X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1331002626 13095 80.91.229.3 (6 Mar 2012 02:57:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2012 02:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs Dev To: "Stephen J. Turnbull" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Mar 06 03:57:05 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S4kaD-0001uR-Or for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 06 Mar 2012 03:57:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48672 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S4kaD-0002WE-7o for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:57:01 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:48795) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S4ka9-0002Vx-Gu for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:56:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S4ka7-0007y9-Hr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:56:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-iy0-f169.google.com ([209.85.210.169]:35275) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1S4ka7-0007y3-Ac for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 21:56:55 -0500 Original-Received: by iajr24 with SMTP id r24so7812722iaj.0 for ; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of as1789@gmail.com designates 10.42.177.133 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.42.177.133; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of as1789@gmail.com designates 10.42.177.133 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=as1789@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=as1789@gmail.com Original-Received: from mr.google.com ([10.42.177.133]) by 10.42.177.133 with SMTP id bi5mr17508139icb.40.1331002613588 (num_hops = 1); Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:56:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=hIgwOU9a6e+0Ef9GpdRllKVoeZqEX5Gy0/T+O/aE2g0=; b=MbSf+Pa7ptYPrIeVjS+HeG0Sn8zl5vE++QUFNJ67MKVvrmO8MRVuh22Tbf4VFv+LHw ERACs35c7R/4MOqFcW88eArCH70CDs0dVFIp/1wSeO3aqBXKIaDX0Bib29vTgxCKr4oO NOAejV/kEZg3MYn5vYNyYkIpvLl74JiEcDrGMr7ro2cZTerf3HW3qUH1Azk3bwZ57EgY thI34DSQj5JBtUfvce3RuiPlgErE8Pf63DKafC7v7J7spHdkLd+hJYNjXY1Bw+SaIwDD ifgwn7iYckK4iAMQpx5u0yJE8PAzgfhc16p4DS4rMCKybSPjh4/YXHp6xiQf6yNZ9Wkj kWwA== Original-Received: by 10.42.177.133 with SMTP id bi5mr14495614icb.40.1331002613503; Mon, 05 Mar 2012 18:56:53 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.231.133.131 with HTTP; Mon, 5 Mar 2012 18:56:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <87y5rea2aa.fsf@uwakimon.sk.tsukuba.ac.jp> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.210.169 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:148898 Archived-At: --90e6ba6e86dcf9173c04ba8a3137 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > > > > The effort you depose to write tabs for emacs can be compared with > > the effort to add to emacs a real graphical interface > > Once again, you're talking to yourself, making us guess what you mean. > > here is a video to see what I am talking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr-GzmvW35w In this video you can imagine that the workspace is a frame or buffer or window of emacs. I can write a minimal smalltalk system in less than 4000 lines of code , and it supports minimal graphics. Emacs does not have millions of lines of code as you say : just run a command like 'cat *.c *.h | wc ' in ./src to convince yourself. No lisp line of code needs be changes, and all functionality would maintain as now. Once you have the tendency to say that you use widgets , you have the tendency to use graphics, so you need a graphical interface. I bow out of this thread definitively now. --90e6ba6e86dcf9173c04ba8a3137 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


=C2=A0> The effort you depose to write tabs for emacs can be compared wi= th
=C2=A0> the effort to add to emacs a real graphical interface

Once again, you're talking to yourself, making us guess what you = mean.


here is a video to see what I am talki= ng.


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In this video you can imagine that the workspace is a frame or buffer = or window of emacs.

I can write a minimal smalltal= k system in less than 4000 lines of code , and it supports minimal graphics= .

Emacs does not have millions of lines of code as you sa= y : just run a command like 'cat *.c *.h | wc ' in ./src to convinc= e yourself.

No lisp line of code needs be changes,= and all functionality would maintain as now.

Once you have the tendency to say that you use widgets = , you have the tendency to use graphics, so you need a graphical interface.=


I bow out of this thread definitiv= ely now.


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