From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Ivan Andrus Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] trunk r116836: Avoid GC crashes. Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 11:12:26 -0600 Message-ID: References: <532CCE2F.1030406@dancol.org> <532CE5CE.8090607@dancol.org> <532CE93F.4010900@dancol.org> <87y50220rh.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> <2BCDF120-7A30-424B-AE26-60D0706C56B8@gmail.com> <83pplb1qx3.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b15add9fc823204f55d56ab X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1395681157 19498 80.91.229.3 (24 Mar 2014 17:12:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 24 Mar 2014 17:12:37 +0000 (UTC) Cc: David Kastrup , Andreas Schwab , "rms@gnu.org" , "emacs-devel@gnu.org List" To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Mar 24 18:12:46 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WS8QX-0007nB-KB for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 18:12:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37591 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS8QW-0000J1-Tg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:12:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:52673) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS8QO-000080-IB for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:12:38 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS8QM-0001eC-RC for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:12:36 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pa0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d]:46528) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1WS8QG-0001ao-Cp; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 13:12:28 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id kl14so5738169pab.4 for ; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:12:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=IJYcXm9R0lodM6p7nyTya7pEsgirEa1XWy7MFJ9CA3Y=; b=tO1vTE02Z+UkkyqJ+nsf4At/iViIKyptGIkR2hIhx5V6Z67rKfLqeTNg/+b2cApiQB RFE3+yVSntpcE/ugdgxfkk2rhqiKQvA1LpONbFPGMmpFHLEGvh/b1sDNcWPL+lihmn5V v7Q9vnauBbPZaap0k4byz2UWmharkhDqNKtFAsExKWrfVFOgVMsw1KEmS8hncsttoD6Z Hmq9/lz3OQR5q4G/1A9kOUXYNBoGJrc4kJ0HxGTsLwUF/mxC4zAAJPlwjp11MVZ69jPV JAyiCcBc6gQSOMrl1pGrgw8Xfnf83QqhlDwTn/KgAvBLXHZYxivSt2m+bteS3Ew06gP4 G59A== X-Received: by 10.68.203.135 with SMTP id kq7mr72291058pbc.85.1395681146993; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:12:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.70.17.101 with HTTP; Mon, 24 Mar 2014 10:12:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83pplb1qx3.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c03::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:170916 Archived-At: --047d7b15add9fc823204f55d56ab Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Mar 24, 2014, at 10:51 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: From: Ivan Andrus Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 23:50:21 -0600 Cc: David Kastrup , rms@gnu.org, emacs-devel@gnu.org On Mar 23, 2014, at 1:12 AM, Andreas Schwab wrote: Richard Stallman writes: So there is no point bothering users of the trunk (including me) with unpredictable and unavoidable crashes. Are there any other people seeing this crash? I think I've experienced the same crash. I noticed the backtrace was in GC a few times. But I can't reproduce the problem reliably (or really at all anymore). There as a time a few months ago when it was much easier for me to reproduce it. It would happen after an hour or so of use. It's much less common now--I just had an uptime of 13 days. I'm on OS X 10.9.2 using the NS version that I build periodically from trunk. I experienced the problem more when I was on 10.8. Do you have the backtraces somewhere that you can post? If not, please do so the next time you see such problems. It is important for us to know whether your GC crashes are similar to those reported by others. I can't find any that I may have saved. I'll make sure to keep any that I get in the future. Thanks, Ivan --047d7b15add9fc823204f55d56ab Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mar 24= , 2014, at 10:51 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

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From: Ivan Andrus <darthandrus@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Mar 2014 23:50:21 -060= 0
Cc: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>, rms@= gnu.org, emacs= -devel@gnu.org

On Mar 23, 2014, at 1:12 AM, Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org> wrote:
Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> writes:

So there is no point bothering users of the t= runk (including me) with
unpredictable and unavoidable crashes.

Are there any other people seeing this crash?

I think I’ve experienced the same crash.  I noticed the back= trace was in GC a few times.  But I can’t reproduce the problem = reliably (or really at all anymore).  There as a time a few months ago= when it was much easier for me to reproduce it.  It would happen afte= r an hour or so of use.  It’s much less common now—I just = had an uptime of 13 days.

I’m on OS X 10.9.2 using the NS version that I build periodically= from trunk.  I experienced the problem more when I was on 10.8.

Do you have the backtraces somewhere that you can post? &nbs= p;If not,
please do so the next time you see such problems.  It is important for=
us to know whether your GC crashes are similar to those reported by
= others.

I can’t find any that I may have saved. &= nbsp;I’ll make sure to keep any that I get in the future.

Thanks,
Ivan
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