From: Robert Weiner <rsw@gnu.org>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Org Mode version to be bundled with Emacs 25?
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 10:01:48 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+OMD9jat1oPfeObGDE5mryoU3jTGzj4y6bXYzoBun2ePJ-mwg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvzipe27lg.fsf-monnier+gmane.emacs.devel@gnu.org>
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On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
wrote:
> > But there is something missing in Emacs presently that would make this a
> > much more attractive option to package developers who want the broadest
> > base of users. There needs to be a simple, single function call to
> require
> > a package which would automatically download, build, install and activate
> > it (a flag could control whether or not this actually happened
> > automatically or if the user were prompted to confirm, etc).
>
> Doesn't package-install do that?
>
Mostly. I don't think it handles updates. Maybe another function
package-require could handle this need (essentially requiring remote
libraries rather than just local ones).
> Of course, I smell some connection to the fact that Emacs developers
> (including myself) have been opposed to making Emacs open up network
> connections (e.g. at startup) without explicit request from the user.
>
There should be an enable- flag with a default of nil to allow for this.
> The main issue I see right now is that packages are installed on a
> per-user
> > basis rather than a per-Emacs site basis, so you would get a lot more
> code
> > instance duplication and version management issues than you would have
> with
> > a package integrated into Emacs core.
>
> ELPA packages can be installed site-wide just fine. There's no obvious
> direct support to do that, admittedly, but it's just a small matter of
> designing the UI (and default layout) and coding it. I had such support
> in install.el and it's really not hard to add. And at least under
> Debian you can install various ELPA packages site-wide via Debian's
> package manager.
>
This would be good.
Bob
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2016-07-19 14:01 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2016-07-18 14:12 Org Mode version to be bundled with Emacs 25? N. Jackson
2016-07-18 14:51 ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-18 15:05 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-18 16:14 ` John Wiegley
2016-07-18 16:38 ` N. Jackson
2016-07-18 16:40 ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-18 17:19 ` Stefan Monnier
2016-07-18 18:10 ` Robert Weiner
2016-07-19 14:01 ` Robert Weiner [this message]
2016-07-18 17:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
2016-07-18 17:57 ` John Wiegley
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