From: Robert Weiner <rsw@gnu.org>
To: Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu>,
Sarah Sunday <sarahsunday369@outlook.com>,
Emacs development discussions <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Disable Mouse Wheel Progressive Speed Patch
Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2017 18:36:19 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+OMD9j5fDQ2vDCZAqHbfBN9y9zZykSSGGUJXCBTO5NLEhNe2A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m2mv6n4bli.fsf@newartisans.com>
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On Fri, Aug 25, 2017 at 4:49 PM, John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>> "PE" == Paul Eggert <eggert@cs.ucla.edu> writes:
>
> PE> I like the idea of having Emacs defaults being closer to what
> non-expert
> PE> users expect.
>
> I too like the thinking behind this change.
>
An extensive amount of work in making Emacs and XEmacs more approachable
to new users was done years ago and was involved enough to warrant a new
name, InfoDock, essentially a turnkey version of XEmacs, though many
features were compatible with Emacs. InfoDock also was helpful to
experienced users/software developers who wanted features automatically
exposed and easy to find when needed. I was the primary author.
To have a look just at the extensive menubars and popup menus, see:
https://gist.github.com/rswgnu/b714e01d84f715dedc741f695dda4522
<https://gist.github.com/rswgnu/b714e01d84f715dedc741f695dda4522>
That work stopped in 1999 but the core concepts are just as usable today
and the code is still available at:
<goog_220641172>
https://sourceforge.net/projects/infodock/files/InfoDock/4.00.08/
One a tgz archive is unpacked, below the infodock/id-lisp/infodock/
directory are the id-menus.el and id-menubars.el files shown in the gist
above.
An experienced Emacs Lisp developer could get the menus of InfoDock working
as an alternative menu-UI within a week I would think. The easymenu.el
package runs XEmacs menus pretty well, I think. Then just update commands
as necessary. Then people could evaluate it and see whether it is worth
adding as an option to Emacs. The menubars themselves provide a button
that allows switching between default menus and InfoDock-style ones. I
have assigned my Emacs code to the FSF, so the copyrights would just need
to be updated.
So instead of making small incremental changes that have small impacts,
there is a way to make major improvements fairly quickly.
Bob
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-08-26 22:36 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-08-25 18:56 Disable Mouse Wheel Progressive Speed Patch Sarah Sunday
2017-08-25 20:26 ` Paul Eggert
2017-08-25 20:49 ` John Wiegley
2017-08-26 22:36 ` Robert Weiner [this message]
2017-08-28 1:16 ` Sarah Sunday
2017-08-25 21:04 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-08-26 7:36 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-26 10:25 ` Tak Kunihiro
2017-08-26 11:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-08-27 9:43 ` Tak Kunihiro
2017-08-27 11:56 ` Alan Third
2017-08-28 1:23 ` Sarah Sunday
2017-08-28 7:03 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2017-08-26 21:06 ` Radon Rosborough
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