From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs 25.0.94: Is require failing to define macros and functions at compile time? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:34:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <5773E5D6.8040201@gmail.com> <57741C4D.6070103@lanl.gov> Reply-To: rswgnu@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467232532 24781 80.91.229.3 (29 Jun 2016 20:35:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 20:35:32 +0000 (UTC) Cc: =?UTF-8?B?Q2zDqW1lbnQgUGl0LS1DbGF1ZGVs?= , emacs-devel To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jun 29 22:35:26 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bIMCi-0002Te-Q7 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 22:35:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45656 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIMCe-0005Jb-JE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:35:20 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43937) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIMC0-0005JW-CL for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:34:41 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIMBx-0006p7-45 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:34:40 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:55090) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bIMBx-0006nb-0J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:34:37 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com ([209.85.214.175]:32808) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bIMBv-0005dl-CF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 16:34:35 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ob0-f175.google.com with SMTP id xn17so42719554obc.0 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:34:35 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJc8smJdrtHCS7IdF3/M+81YBOXQ58g7tXRG+veF4o9VcnbTu6Vjy6JLnIXEt6DhbziFxxD4t6rDx1lEw== X-Received: by 10.157.10.70 with SMTP id 64mr7382651otg.131.1467232474594; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:34:34 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.202.212.143 with HTTP; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 13:34:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:204948 Archived-At: On Wed, Jun 29, 2016 at 3:59 PM, Drew Adams wrote: >> Any library complicated enough to have N `require's will by necessity >> have so many more lines of code than N that the longhand list of >> (require 'foo) will be negligible. What happened to less code is easier to maintain? Or don't repeat yourself? > Doing it the simple(minded), obvious > way has the advantage that it makes trivial things like grep easier. I do: grep "require.*" *.el all the time without a problem on libraries that use the (mapc #'require ...) call, so it is not a problem. Bob