From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: why is site-lisp placed before the default load path? Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 14:35:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83bn1co33l.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rswgnu@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113ddff2bf0cb805391afe4c X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1470163043 17127 195.159.176.226 (2 Aug 2016 18:37:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2016 18:37:23 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Alex Dunn , emacs-devel To: James Cloos Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Aug 02 20:37:19 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1bUeZ4-00043f-TO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 20:37:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:58378 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUeZ1-0005YT-Jz for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 14:37:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:38017) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUeYQ-0005XA-6r for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 14:36:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUeYK-0004F3-2T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 14:36:37 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:36240) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bUeYJ-0004EO-Vq for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 14:36:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-f44.google.com ([209.85.218.44]:35617) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bUeYI-0004WF-8X; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 14:36:30 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-f44.google.com with SMTP id 4so39031301oih.2; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 11:36:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoout4hm+pht1IMn/jRoK/CCSNsTT/oIaYZJhu8wbH1pfv4nvqwxfF6VE1QZYAH8b3p57+itwU76s7oxoRaA== X-Received: by 10.202.192.214 with SMTP id q205mr38042178oif.176.1470162989417; Tue, 02 Aug 2016 11:36:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.202.199.143 with HTTP; Tue, 2 Aug 2016 11:35:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:206363 Archived-At: --001a113ddff2bf0cb805391afe4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:35 PM, James Cloos wrote: > That is what broke things. (As I've complained before.) =E2=80=8BIf a package unintentionally shadows/overrides a standard/core Ema= cs library, then it is the package that is broken and needs to be fixed. If instead the behavior is intentional then that is what the current load-path order is designed to allow. Bob --001a113ddff2bf0cb805391afe4c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= ue, Aug 2, 2016 at 1:35 PM, James Cloos <cloos@jhcloos.com> = wrote:
That is what broke things.=C2=A0 (= As I've complained before.)

=E2=80=8BIf a package uni= ntentionally shadows/overrides a standard/core Emacs library, then it is th= e package that is broken and needs to be fixed.=C2=A0 If instead the behavi= or is intentional then that is what the current load-path order is designed= to allow.

Bob

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