From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] Fixing package-initialize, adding early init file Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:52:32 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rswgnu@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c062622ed037f055b3423af" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1507654448 32547 195.159.176.226 (10 Oct 2017 16:54:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2017 16:54:08 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel To: Radon Rosborough Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 10 18:54:04 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1e1xn1-0006RX-Tp for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 18:53:56 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:36114 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e1xn5-0002SK-O5 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:53:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:40638) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e1xmF-0002Qv-7l for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:53:08 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e1xmC-0005eU-5X for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:53:07 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:58446) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1e1xmC-0005eL-1z for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:53:04 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-qt0-f171.google.com ([209.85.216.171]:49008) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1e1xmB-0007m2-AX for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 12:53:03 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-qt0-f171.google.com with SMTP id f8so18201465qta.5 for ; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 09:53:03 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AMCzsaVKRo/i8T15nWBr9uK4BGEA9qkgrmTPuw9vzHcRdtJOlLgHkOcU AaLdgA/QMNfY6ipKr+MoOJdOUzMk4IwasIQ70OA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QDQBRceuUIh4swv+glaJ+pdRuUwSDgFyzocLZPR91wP5Ld7SneyaYdp0PN3IC1pIRsbGyO4aovKoorJBU8NnxM= X-Received: by 10.55.124.198 with SMTP id x189mr7465862qkc.40.1507654382714; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 09:53:02 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.237.34.225 with HTTP; Tue, 10 Oct 2017 09:52:32 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:219348 Archived-At: --94eb2c062622ed037f055b3423af Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Radon Rosborough wrote: > Hello all, > > Attached is a preliminary patch for fixing "the package-initialize > problem" (see [1] [2] [3]) by adding an early init file. > =E2=80=8BMy thoughts are: 1. For most Emacs users who do not program in Elisp, there should be only a single init file that they would personalize, generally as they find snippets of code they can cut and paste for their use.=E2=80=8B 2. For Elispers, another optional init file for more fine-grained control would be okay, though not ideal. But this means whatever problem exists with package-initialize, it should be solved without requiring the use of a 2nd init file. Bob --94eb2c062622ed037f055b3423af Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon, Sep 18, 2= 017 at 5:57 PM, Radon Rosborough <radon.neon@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello all,

Attached is a preliminary patch for fixing "the package-initialize
problem" (see [1] [2] [3]) by adding an early init file.

=E2=80=8BMy thoughts are:

1. For most Emacs users who = do not program in Elisp, there should be only a single init file that they = would personalize, generally as they find snippets of code they can cut and= paste for their use.=E2=80=8B

2. For Elispers, another optional ini= t file for more fine-grained control would be okay, though not ideal.
=

=
But this means whatever problem exists with package-initialize, it should= be solved without requiring the use of a 2nd init file.

Bob


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