From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: How to make Emacs popular again: Use monospaced fonts less Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2021 23:13:49 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87o8ls1vvq.fsf@posteo.net> <20200926145302.sjrwjrguf5ialc25@Ergus> <3201a9fe-de19-d553-0be1-d379f182fd47@yandex.ru> <84273aa2-24a9-7584-18b9-03a5ac783d62@yandex.ru> <835z7vjrg3.fsf@gnu.org> <83tuvegkmo.fsf@gnu.org> <83v9ftf6n9.fsf@gnu.org> <835z7qfp6h.fsf@gnu.org> <87ft6lgw5y.fsf_-_@gnus.org> Reply-To: rswgnu@gmail.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000080919105c04ab974" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="17089"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Apr 19 05:15:03 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lYKNL-0004Kc-Aq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 19 Apr 2021 05:15:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:59602 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYKNK-0001T1-Ba for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 23:15:02 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45352) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYKMc-0000zh-FV for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 23:14:18 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::e]:59976) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lYKMc-0000Ot-4R for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 23:14:18 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-f50.google.com ([209.85.167.50]:36843) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1lYKMb-00049f-AS for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 23:14:17 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-f50.google.com with SMTP id n138so53763607lfa.3 for ; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 20:14:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531NGt3bxrIVl0p1yvqJ45bHwck7OAzbhQyw8ut/uRsdWUBfxiV4 pXKHlecBeTcDNd8lHXX3bjtk+17sw07G+aiRr2U= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxvN/b4AZXfCF704tnQCnDV26zDVwb57L0m4n4DTgc9hMjIHCrHIJIroNnFdTCmsc+68nWl0oR7g5XWovdx5Qw= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:20d9:: with SMTP id u25mr10266482lfr.452.1618802055874; Sun, 18 Apr 2021 20:14:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87ft6lgw5y.fsf_-_@gnus.org> X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:268148 Archived-At: --00000000000080919105c04ab974 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 1:38 AM Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Other obvious candidates for variable-pitching are basically any mode > that displays data in tabular form. And, of course, the manuals, but > that'll happen by itself once we move from .info to .html. > Is this a serious statement? Please don't do that. I can browse an entire Info manual easily inside Emacs nicely by pressing the spacebar and delete only. I can search entire manuals quickly and move across manuals easily. Of course, it would be fine to additionally output html format for web viewing since the Texinfo/Makeinfo package already supports that. Old fashioned sometimes is better. If only Scribe had survived, millions of hours would not have been lost in Word and LaTeX formatting and now the minimalist Markdown to get worse results. -- Bob --00000000000080919105c04ab974 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Sun, Oct 11, 2020 at 1:38 AM Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
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Is this a serious statement?=C2=A0 Please don't do that.= =C2=A0 I can browse an entire Info manual easily inside Emacs nicely by pre= ssing the spacebar and delete only.=C2=A0 I can search entire manuals quick= ly and move across manuals easily.

Of course, it would be fine to a= dditionally output html format for web viewing since the Texinfo/Makeinfo p= ackage already supports that.

Old fashioned sometimes is better.=C2= =A0 If only Scribe had survived, millions of hours would not have been lost= in Word and LaTeX formatting and now the minimalist Markdown to get worse = results.

-- Bob
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