From: Robert Weiner <rsw@gnu.org>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at>,
Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Suggestion: Add discussion of input focus handling to select-window; add select-frame-window
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 12:15:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CA+OMD9hrfS7npsAPVeM=+Xp1MZ6N1Sjr1F8JTdjUtzD+FcBf8g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 12:04 PM, Robert Weiner <rsw@gnu.org> wrote:
>
> So my thought is that where interactive user input goes is broader than
> input focus,
> is connected to what window is selected, and should be explained in one
> place in
> a succinct manner that is easily findable when looking up windows or
> frames.
>
I would also argue that although I agree that selecting windows, selecting
frames and
setting user input to a frame are all different concepts, they are
lower-level concepts
from which higher-level user-centered behaviors are built. The user model
is much closer
to "I select a thing that I see and any further inputs go there". In fact,
with many
window managers this is true, as a click in a window will select the frame,
the window
and set input focus there. So there is no reason to avoid offering the
Elisp programmer
a similar model that documents these concepts in combination and brings the
programming
model closer to the user model. For those times where finer-grained
control is necessary,
the individual behavior primitives are always available.
Bob
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-12-12 15:39 Suggestion: Add discussion of input focus handling to select-window; add select-frame-window Robert Weiner
2017-12-12 18:13 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-12 18:49 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-12 20:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-12 21:29 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-12 21:57 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-12 20:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-12 21:19 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-13 8:49 ` martin rudalics
2017-12-13 13:37 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-13 14:37 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-13 19:29 ` martin rudalics
2017-12-13 20:30 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-13 22:10 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-14 3:33 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-14 15:01 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-14 20:09 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-14 23:43 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-15 1:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2017-12-16 16:11 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-16 16:42 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-16 17:23 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-16 16:27 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-16 16:21 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-16 16:29 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-16 17:04 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-16 17:15 ` Robert Weiner [this message]
2017-12-16 17:26 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-16 18:16 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-16 18:41 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-16 19:18 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-16 19:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-16 20:52 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-22 10:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2017-12-16 22:44 ` Robert Weiner
2017-12-13 14:51 ` Robert Weiner
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