On Sat, Dec 16, 2017 at 2:06 PM, martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> wrote:

> >> Take raise-frame for example.  Should we not expect
> >> this to make the given frame the topmost?  The doc string says we
> >> should.
> >
> > Martin will tell, but I personally am not sure we can rely on that,
> > the doc string notwithstanding.
>
> `raise-frame' should make a frame's window-system window the topmost one
> in its z-group and any z-group beneath it.


​That is all I am asking of it.

It should not direct input
> focus to that frame although many window managers and window systems may
> do that automatically.  This should be no problem when the Emacs thread
> already has input focus.  If, however, Emacs doesn't have focus, it
> would try to steal focus from another application and many "modern"
> window managers and window systems may prevent that.
>

I do a lot of interactive, user-centered work where the Emacs
is naturally the application with focus, so in this context
there is no issue.

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>
> ​​
> So `raise-frame' works reliably when the frame is given input focus as
> ​​
> well - users of `minibuffer-auto-raise' should be able to confirm that.
> ​​
> Calling it twice in a row without intermittent user interaction, using
> ​​
> time to control its behavior, or calling it when Emacs doesn't already
> ​​
> have focus, however, usually means asking for trouble.


​Good to know.

Bob
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