From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Differences between Org-Mode and Hyperbole Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:16:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: rswgnu@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113db4ba8f7aa70535587929 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1466029057 4105 80.91.229.3 (15 Jun 2016 22:17:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:17:37 +0000 (UTC) To: Robert Weiner , Tom , Robert Weiner , Mats Lidell , emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 16 00:17:30 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bDJ7o-0000Ae-5a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Jun 2016 00:17:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45358 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDJ7n-0006bp-Cc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:17:27 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:50374) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDJ79-0006bd-2N for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:16:48 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDJ76-0006wE-Sr for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:16:46 -0400 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:57092) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1bDJ71-0006u8-8N; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:16:39 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-f47.google.com ([209.85.218.47]:35919) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1bDJ6z-0001Et-3U; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 18:16:37 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oi0-f47.google.com with SMTP id p204so41877040oih.3; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:16:37 -0700 (PDT) X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tI00yiAf/gCjRe2tZbAKFtNP6bLuS2rwUEFWH0pTS2rtB94cewEFIiflUN8qPeSW5+IV5LBCChC+R+65Q== X-Received: by 10.157.14.174 with SMTP id 43mr647619otj.83.1466028996390; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:16:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.202.236.73 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Jun 2016 15:16:04 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:204416 Archived-At: --001a113db4ba8f7aa70535587929 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 5:53 PM, John Wiegley wrote: > >>>>> Robert Weiner writes: > > > Org-mode doesn't have any contact management as far as I know (which is > not > > much since I have not yet used it). > > There is org-contacts. > Good to know. It looks like it is field-based, requiring you to create or reuse a template and then fill in fields in particular locations. This is one of the things I hated about other contact managers and why Hyperbole's was developed. It uses free-from records and full-text search for retrieval across any number of contact files desired. It even looks up BBDB records automatically, all with no configuration. The Hyperbole contact manager uses Emacs outlining so you can have hierarchies of records, e.g. departments or other organizations and find them all at once grouped together and many other features without the need to add extensions or configure much of anything. > Org-mode does nothing for management of libraries of information. > > Deft has integration with Org-mode for this, among others (like Helm). > I had not heard of Deft. I'll have to check it out. John, if you can remember that far back, maybe you could tell people what you liked about Hyperbole and how you used it to give people an idea. Bob --001a113db4ba8f7aa70535587929 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On W= ed, Jun 15, 2016 at 5:53 PM, John Wiegley <jwiegley@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Robert We= iner <rsw@gnu.org> writes:

> Org-mode doesn't have any contact management as far as I know (whi= ch is not
> much since I have not yet used it).

There is org-contacts.

Good to know.=C2= =A0 It looks like it is field-based, requiring you to create or reuse a tem= plate and then fill in fields in particular locations.=C2=A0 This is one of= the things I hated about other contact managers and why Hyperbole's wa= s developed.=C2=A0 It uses free-from records and full-text search for retri= eval across any number of contact files desired.=C2=A0 It even looks up BBD= B records automatically, all with no configuration.=C2=A0 The Hyperbole con= tact manager uses Emacs outlining so you can have hierarchies of records, e= .g. departments or other organizations and find them all at once grouped to= gether and many other features without the need to add extensions or config= ure much of anything.

> Org-mode does nothing for management of libraries of information.

Deft has integration with Org-mode for this, among others (like Helm).
<= /blockquote>

I had not heard of Deft.=C2=A0 I'll hav= e to check it out.

John, if you can remember that = far back, maybe you could tell people what you liked about Hyperbole and ho= w you used it to give people an idea.

Bob

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