From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Robert Weiner Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Suggestion: Add discussion of input focus handling to select-window; add select-frame-window Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:21:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: <5A30E9AF.2060105@gmx.at> <5A317FAA.3090209@gmx.at> <83d13iv095.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmj2ugok.fsf@gnu.org> Reply-To: rswgnu@gmail.com NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a114a7166da699b0560778554" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1513441358 22829 195.159.176.226 (16 Dec 2017 16:22:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2017 16:22:38 +0000 (UTC) Cc: martin rudalics , Stefan Monnier , emacs-devel To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Dec 16 17:22:34 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFEO-0005V0-3P for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 17:22:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51178 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFEV-0005Qv-8c for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:22:39 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56641) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFEO-0005Qf-LE for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:22:33 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFEJ-0004lp-NU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:22:32 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:35578) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFEJ-0004lf-Kf for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:22:27 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-qk0-f182.google.com ([209.85.220.182]:36311) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:128) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eQFEI-0005Kp-VE; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 11:22:27 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-qk0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 8so13841350qkj.3; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 08:22:26 -0800 (PST) X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mIc/ZjX2+p2rCpPvykzhVFb0miERdVsyvW607fA6vTb+LDkoLNV dI66vI6pYopMFIRbkB45c+jO1Fwtvm8qsQsMPe8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBotpK0AzQHxfkMv3+DkVDxsOw4UiEnSU/6iiAtN3pYPb9MBKYaWfQRz7nRi2DzTn9TvkiqZ/TZ6g4RlfLnFg3mo= X-Received: by 10.55.80.8 with SMTP id e8mr26830858qkb.126.1513441346609; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 08:22:26 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.200.55.124 with HTTP; Sat, 16 Dec 2017 08:21:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Gmail-Original-Message-ID: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:221132 Archived-At: --001a114a7166da699b0560778554 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 10:01 AM, Robert Weiner wrote: > On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > >> >> My misunderstanding, sorry. >> >> But if the issue is documentation, why not show a proposed patch? >> > > =E2=80=8BI did with this suggested addition to select-window's doc string= : > > "Although this selects the window's frame, it does not alter the > frame's position in the window stack (see `raise-frame') nor does > it direct input focus to that frame. To do both of those at once, > see `select-frame-set-input-focus'. > =E2=80=8BI still think this is a clear and modest proposal. select-window = already mentions frames so I don't see an issue with cross-referencing more frame-related behavior to make the needs clear with one additional sentence. Are you guy= s still against this given the further explanations? Bob =E2=80=8B --001a114a7166da699b0560778554 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Thu, Dec 14, 2= 017 at 10:01 AM, Robert Weiner <rs= w@gnu.org> wrote= :
On Wed, Dec 13, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

My misunderstanding, sorry.

But if the issue is documentation, why not show a proposed patch?

=E2=80=8BI did with this suggested addition to select-window's doc str= ing:
<= br>
"Although this selects the window's= frame, it does not alter the
frame's= =C2=A0position in the window stack = (see `raise-frame') nor does
it direc= t input focus to that frame.=C2=A0=C2=A0To do both of those at once,
see `se= lect-frame-set-input-focus'.

=E2=80=8BI = still think this is a clear and modest proposal.=C2=A0 select-window alread= y
mentions frames so I don't see an issue with cross-referencing more = frame-related
behavior to make the needs clear with one additional sentenc= e.=C2=A0 Are you guys
still against this given the further explanations?
=
Bob
=E2=80=8B
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