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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:302760 Archived-At: > > +** The 'utf-8-auto' coding-system now includes a byte order mark > > This is inaccurate: the change is only on encoding, and saying that a > coding-system "includes" a BOM is confusing English, IMO. Hrm. I agree. Would it be better to say something like the following? "Encoding 'utf-8-auto' now correctly produces a byte order mark" > More importantly, it was a bugfix. utf-8-auto was previously behaving > contrary to the documentation: > We don't announce bugfixes in NEWS, mainly because doing so would make > an already large file many times larger. I understand that this is technically a bugfix, but it is also a major change in the actual behavior that could catch users by surprise and that is very difficult to detect and debug. Is it reasonable to use NEWS to try to mitigate the potential blast radius in such cases?