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X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22a X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:113672 Archived-At: I think both Emanuel and Jean-Christophe have good points, it's a tricky situation. On Mon, Jul 3, 2017 at 4:32 AM, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Actually, the French did much to promote their > own systems and give them widespread use. > Like the metric system which was adopted in > Sweden in 1878. The French also have an > industrial standard, SI, or the "Syst=C3=A8me > international", which is ironic as they are the > only ones using it. In Sweden, for example, we > use the German industrial standard, or DIN. Just nitpicking here but SI is actually just the formal name of the metric system i.e. a set of measurement units. The industrial standards you are thinking of might be the NF documents produced by AFNOR. Most countries have their own (even Sweden (SIS)) which granted is not always for industrial purposes but are national standards none-the-less. I think it's a simple result of being an independent country: you're bound to have country specific things and I don't see anything wrong with it. 1: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_technical_standard_organisations#N= ationally-based_standards_organizations