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[70.196.200.21]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id uq2sm27320074obc.9.2014.08.20.23.15.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 20 Aug 2014 23:15:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D257) In-Reply-To: <87wqa28s4t.wl%andres.ramirez@kipuamutay.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.218.50 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:173787 Archived-At: It'd certainly be nice to have some way to share edits across emacs clients -= one that functions as a minor mode on top of all major modes. That would be= amazing! You could have an additional comments buffer that maps to lines th= at would be saved to everyone's disk. Code reviews could be made on the fly.= I don't think there's a single programming environment that provides that. -M > On Aug 20, 2014, at 8:59 PM, "andres.ramirez" wrote: >=20 > Hi Richard. >=20 > At Wed, 20 Aug 2014 22:41:55 -0400, > Richard Stallman wrote: >>=20 >> [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] >> [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] >> [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] >>=20 >>> I have some idea what Tox does. >>> How would Tox enable people to edit a document together? >>> I do not see how it relates. >> tox, lets You share your graphical desktop, among other things, >>=20 >> I am not sure what "share your graphical desktop" looks like, >> in practice. Does it mean that all the users are apparently >> typing at the same Emacs process? That would be rather a pain. >> Not as good as sharing a buffer. >=20 > "share your graphical desktop" does not enable "collaborating editing", j= ust one person edit or > works with the desktop, and the other ones are just viewing It. >=20 > Sharing a buffer is awesome. +1 >=20 > Best Regards >>=20 >> --=20 >> Dr Richard Stallman >> President, Free Software Foundation >> 51 Franklin St >> Boston MA 02110 >> USA >> www.fsf.org www.gnu.org >> Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. >> Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. >>=20