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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:314445 Archived-At: > On Jan 1, 2024, at 3:09 PM, Stefan Kangas = wrote: >=20 > Yuan Fu writes: >=20 >>> What sort of encryption do they use? >>=20 >> The servers use webrtc for communication, which uses DTLS for >> encryption. But as I said, collab-mode is not secure right now, = adding >> authentication and access control is on the TODO list. >=20 > Is it E2E? Yes, if I do everything correctly, which I=E2=80=99m not (as for now). Yuan=