From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Pavlo Martynenko Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs on OS X development Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 13:18:42 +0300 Message-ID: References: <33545A47-0907-4059-92A6-0343CEDD2750@swipnet.se> <869E965F-CD75-46D6-92BB-B3C08C8D846B@swipnet.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1342520339 3338 80.91.229.3 (17 Jul 2012 10:18:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2012 10:18:59 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 17 12:18:58 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr4rp-0006BT-Cr for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 12:18:57 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43029 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr4ro-00072w-Ht for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:18:56 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:41109) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr4rh-0006wy-15 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:18:54 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr4rf-00018x-I6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:18:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-bk0-f41.google.com ([209.85.214.41]:33062) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Sr4rf-00018q-B8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 06:18:47 -0400 Original-Received: by bkcjc3 with SMTP id jc3so172787bkc.0 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:18:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; bh=05NPXbRPwjGg1e4XEXn5y7KwV2Y/drvruGR/NIc/cLQ=; b=IwPRQ1L5XSqkdYHDPqsmr+urUK/4nAeqrPBu7/Qqu/fIZiYLjQCYQhV/ymhK58IxjQ jTMyhrjfYoz60LuzoXNwN7n8KHs2NnYXff9ZlNnwq8NiNwGSwma7B+21nfVgBLiwqMnd jjDc7FsCYGokCil2/qMW+CzplkyDJOCYM16YzGNQsAMIy3LGoKQDWiVB+aygj/JmqA92 RfwpnKHWRJTJuU3XPbKotoz3gxDH/0dpza99iADcHPAS95NIi55gVYYDur2T7wbb2Y7J nShNporzEpNmAn5/+w0VWnif38RTcBi7yAOxfCvvzUyGzjP1l7Cdwu97mGzlcCg0JSWF fh6w== Original-Received: by 10.204.152.19 with SMTP id e19mr786025bkw.8.1342520326133; Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.50] (77-52-90-107.dialup.umc.net.ua. [77.52.90.107]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id hg13sm9584490bkc.7.2012.07.17.03.18.44 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Tue, 17 Jul 2012 03:18:45 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.214.41 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:151701 Archived-At: I've been using Mac Port since march and it is really great! While NS port looks ugly, and works with problems (it has problems with = C-g, font rendering, modifier keys, multiprocessing, networking). NS port may be used on GNUStep, but not on osx. On 16 Jul 2012, at 01:11, chad wrote: > Do you use a relocatable .app bundle, or does your mac version scatter = lots of stuff around /usr/local? This latter is a pet peeve of mine = that I had surprising trouble avoiding. I don't. I'm using homebrew, and console version of emacs in /usr/local = is fine for me. But it is nice to have it as an option. On 16 Jul 2012, at 00:34, Donald Curtis wrote: > I have found that there are problems using the current ns version over = screen sharing (input to the GUI fails). I have also noticed that when = doing HTTP connections, things tended to get stuck on the ns-port until = I gave some keyboard or mouse input over the GUI. =20 True. > My only complaint is that now that Yamamoto has included the GUI = animation stuff, it triggers my discrete GPU on my laptop, something I = would like it to not do. Agree, GUI animation in Mac port is unnecessary. The less GPU, the more = battery. On 16 Jul 2012, at 00:20, Donald Curtis wrote: > For anyone using Homebrew on OS X that wants to try the "mac" version, = I have updated the "emacs.rb" build recipe to allow a "--mac" option = when building Emacs. It is working for me but not accepted in the main = Homebrew tree because the maintainers weren't sure how many people would = use it. And how much maintainer wants? You may count on me + one or two :) Pavlo