Patch to allow quotes showing on *remember*

Patch to allow quotes showing on *remember*

[Hugo Schmitt]

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Hi folks!
I'm sending this as a suggestion.
Right now the function 'org-remember-handler' removes the lines on the
beginning of the buffer that start with "##" (the ones explaining
usage, shortcuts, etc)
Yesterday i was trying out sachac's idea of putting quotes into
remember (on the bottom), but the text that went there was being added
to the todo.org with the actual todo.

W/ the fix org also removes the lines on the end that begin with '##'.

Cheers,
-Hugo

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*** c:/hugo/repo/emacs/other/org/org.ori.el	Mon Jan 14 17:30:12 2008
--- c:/hugo/repo/emacs/other/org/org.el	Mon Jan 14 17:30:52 2008
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*** 13568,13573 ****
--- 13568,13575 ----
    (while (looking-at "^[ \t]*\n\\|^##.*\n")
      (replace-match ""))
    (goto-char (point-max))
+   (while (looking-back "^[ \t]*\n\\|^##.*\n")
+ 	(replace-match ""))
    (catch 'quit
      (if org-note-abort (throw 'quit nil))
      (let* ((txt (buffer-substring (point-min) (point-max)))

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Re: Patch to allow quotes showing on *remember*

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Hugo,

I am not sure what the purpose of this is.  The ## stuff at the  
beginning
is stuff to remind the user on how to proceed further.  What is the idea
of Sacha you are referring to?  What is the use case?

Thanks.


On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:

> Hi folks!
> I'm sending this as a suggestion.
> Right now the function 'org-remember-handler' removes the lines on the
> beginning of the buffer that start with "##" (the ones explaining
> usage, shortcuts, etc)
> Yesterday i was trying out sachac's idea of putting quotes into
> remember (on the bottom), but the text that went there was being added
> to the todo.org with the actual todo.
>
> W/ the fix org also removes the lines on the end that begin with '##'.
>
> Cheers,
> -Hugo
> <org.el.patch>_______________________________________________
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Re: Patch to allow quotes showing on *remember*

[Hugo Schmitt]

Hi again.
Let me just show you the use case. Take a look at my current remember buffer:

---start
## Filing location: Select interactively, default, or last used:
##     C-u C-c C-c  to select file and header location interactively.
##         C-c C-c  "~/hugo/docs/org/todo.org" -> "* Inbox"
## C-u C-u C-c C-c  "???" -> "* ???"
## To switch templates, use `C-c r'.  To abort use `C-c C-k'.

* TODO todo title goes here
  [2008-01-15 ter]

## An Emacs reference mug is what I want.  It would hold ten gallons of coffee.
## -- Steve VanDevender
---end

I need that patch so that the bottom lines (the quote) aren't appended
into the org file after remember.
I was just saying that, if more people use something like this *and*
it doesn't mess up for people who don't, the patch could be added to
org.

-hugo


On Jan 15, 2008 7:55 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Hugo,
>
> I am not sure what the purpose of this is.  The ## stuff at the
> beginning
> is stuff to remind the user on how to proceed further.  What is the idea
> of Sacha you are referring to?  What is the use case?
>
> Thanks.
>
>
>
> On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:
>
> > Hi folks!
> > I'm sending this as a suggestion.
> > Right now the function 'org-remember-handler' removes the lines on the
> > beginning of the buffer that start with "##" (the ones explaining
> > usage, shortcuts, etc)
> > Yesterday i was trying out sachac's idea of putting quotes into
> > remember (on the bottom), but the text that went there was being added
> > to the todo.org with the actual todo.
> >
> > W/ the fix org also removes the lines on the end that begin with '##'.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > -Hugo
> > <org.el.patch>_______________________________________________
> > Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> > Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> > Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> > http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>
>

Re: Patch to allow quotes showing on *remember*

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Hugo,

On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:

> Hi again.
> Let me just show you the use case. Take a look at my current  
> remember buffer:
>
> ---start
> ## Filing location: Select interactively, default, or last used:
> ##     C-u C-c C-c  to select file and header location interactively.
> ##         C-c C-c  "~/hugo/docs/org/todo.org" -> "* Inbox"
> ## C-u C-u C-c C-c  "???" -> "* ???"
> ## To switch templates, use `C-c r'.  To abort use `C-c C-k'.
>
> * TODO todo title goes here
>  [2008-01-15 ter]
>
> ## An Emacs reference mug is what I want.  It would hold ten gallons  
> of coffee.
> ## -- Steve VanDevender
> ---end
>
> I need that patch so that the bottom lines (the quote) aren't appended
> into the org file after remember.
> I was just saying that, if more people use something like this *and*
> it doesn't mess up for people who don't, the patch could be added to
> org.


My question is: how did this extra commend get into the remember buffer
in the first place?  Why is it there?  just for fun?

- Carsten

>
>
> -hugo
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2008 7:55 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Hi Hugo,
>>
>> I am not sure what the purpose of this is.  The ## stuff at the
>> beginning
>> is stuff to remind the user on how to proceed further.  What is the  
>> idea
>> of Sacha you are referring to?  What is the use case?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks!
>>> I'm sending this as a suggestion.
>>> Right now the function 'org-remember-handler' removes the lines on  
>>> the
>>> beginning of the buffer that start with "##" (the ones explaining
>>> usage, shortcuts, etc)
>>> Yesterday i was trying out sachac's idea of putting quotes into
>>> remember (on the bottom), but the text that went there was being  
>>> added
>>> to the todo.org with the actual todo.
>>>
>>> W/ the fix org also removes the lines on the end that begin with  
>>> '##'.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -Hugo
>>> <org.el.patch>_______________________________________________
>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>
>>

Re: Patch to allow quotes showing on *remember*

[Hugo Schmitt]

Carsten,
Yeah, mostly for fun, but for example Sacha used it for learning
English-Japanese translations..
If there is a better way to fix the remember buffer, please tell me.

Here's a excerpt from Sacha's post:

Adding Other Text to the Remember Buffer

Remember has plenty of hooks that let you modify the behavior. For
example, you might want to insert a random tagline or fortune-cookie
saying whenever you create a note. This is a fun way to encourage
yourself to write more, because then there's a little surprise every
time you open a Remember buffer.

and here is the code that inserts that (rest is on the blog):

(eval-after-load 'remember
  '(progn
     (defadvice remember (after wicked activate)
       "Add random tagline."
       (save-excursion
         (goto-char (point-max))
         (insert "\n\n" (wicked/random-tagline) "\n\n")))))

Maybe i can implement that "cleaning the remember buffer" also as an
advice or hook?
Thanks in advance.
Hugo


Here's the link:
http://sachachua.com/wp/2008/01/13/capturing-notes-with-remember/
search for subtitle "Adding Other Text to the Remember Buffer"


On Jan 15, 2008 8:17 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Hugo,
>
> On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:
>
> > Hi again.
> > Let me just show you the use case. Take a look at my current
> > remember buffer:
> >
> > ---start
> > ## Filing location: Select interactively, default, or last used:
> > ##     C-u C-c C-c  to select file and header location interactively.
> > ##         C-c C-c  "~/hugo/docs/org/todo.org" -> "* Inbox"
> > ## C-u C-u C-c C-c  "???" -> "* ???"
> > ## To switch templates, use `C-c r'.  To abort use `C-c C-k'.
> >
> > * TODO todo title goes here
> >  [2008-01-15 ter]
> >
> > ## An Emacs reference mug is what I want.  It would hold ten gallons
> > of coffee.
> > ## -- Steve VanDevender
> > ---end
> >
> > I need that patch so that the bottom lines (the quote) aren't appended
> > into the org file after remember.
> > I was just saying that, if more people use something like this *and*
> > it doesn't mess up for people who don't, the patch could be added to
> > org.
>
>
> My question is: how did this extra commend get into the remember buffer
> in the first place?  Why is it there?  just for fun?
>
> - Carsten
>
>
> >
> >
> > -hugo
> >
> >
> > On Jan 15, 2008 7:55 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >> Hi Hugo,
> >>
> >> I am not sure what the purpose of this is.  The ## stuff at the
> >> beginning
> >> is stuff to remind the user on how to proceed further.  What is the
> >> idea
> >> of Sacha you are referring to?  What is the use case?
> >>
> >> Thanks.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi folks!
> >>> I'm sending this as a suggestion.
> >>> Right now the function 'org-remember-handler' removes the lines on
> >>> the
> >>> beginning of the buffer that start with "##" (the ones explaining
> >>> usage, shortcuts, etc)
> >>> Yesterday i was trying out sachac's idea of putting quotes into
> >>> remember (on the bottom), but the text that went there was being
> >>> added
> >>> to the todo.org with the actual todo.
> >>>
> >>> W/ the fix org also removes the lines on the end that begin with
> >>> '##'.
> >>>
> >>> Cheers,
> >>> -Hugo
> >>> <org.el.patch>_______________________________________________
> >>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
> >>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
> >>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
> >>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
> >>
> >>
>
>

Re: Patch to allow quotes showing on *remember*

[Carsten Dominik]

Hi Hugo,

I see now what you mean, and I have no objections to remove comment  
lines at the end.
However, I believe that Sacha's idea it terrible and completely  
orthogonal to the idea of remember, which was written to *minimize*  
distraction :-)

Anyway, I will add your patch.

- Carsten

On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:26 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:

> Carsten,
> Yeah, mostly for fun, but for example Sacha used it for learning
> English-Japanese translations..
> If there is a better way to fix the remember buffer, please tell me.
>
> Here's a excerpt from Sacha's post:
>
> Adding Other Text to the Remember Buffer
>
> Remember has plenty of hooks that let you modify the behavior. For
> example, you might want to insert a random tagline or fortune-cookie
> saying whenever you create a note. This is a fun way to encourage
> yourself to write more, because then there's a little surprise every
> time you open a Remember buffer.
>
> and here is the code that inserts that (rest is on the blog):
>
> (eval-after-load 'remember
>  '(progn
>     (defadvice remember (after wicked activate)
>       "Add random tagline."
>       (save-excursion
>         (goto-char (point-max))
>         (insert "\n\n" (wicked/random-tagline) "\n\n")))))
>
> Maybe i can implement that "cleaning the remember buffer" also as an
> advice or hook?
> Thanks in advance.
> Hugo
>
>
> Here's the link:
> http://sachachua.com/wp/2008/01/13/capturing-notes-with-remember/
> search for subtitle "Adding Other Text to the Remember Buffer"
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2008 8:17 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>  
> wrote:
>> Hi Hugo,
>>
>> On Jan 15, 2008, at 12:04 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again.
>>> Let me just show you the use case. Take a look at my current
>>> remember buffer:
>>>
>>> ---start
>>> ## Filing location: Select interactively, default, or last used:
>>> ##     C-u C-c C-c  to select file and header location  
>>> interactively.
>>> ##         C-c C-c  "~/hugo/docs/org/todo.org" -> "* Inbox"
>>> ## C-u C-u C-c C-c  "???" -> "* ???"
>>> ## To switch templates, use `C-c r'.  To abort use `C-c C-k'.
>>>
>>> * TODO todo title goes here
>>> [2008-01-15 ter]
>>>
>>> ## An Emacs reference mug is what I want.  It would hold ten gallons
>>> of coffee.
>>> ## -- Steve VanDevender
>>> ---end
>>>
>>> I need that patch so that the bottom lines (the quote) aren't  
>>> appended
>>> into the org file after remember.
>>> I was just saying that, if more people use something like this *and*
>>> it doesn't mess up for people who don't, the patch could be added to
>>> org.
>>
>>
>> My question is: how did this extra commend get into the remember  
>> buffer
>> in the first place?  Why is it there?  just for fun?
>>
>> - Carsten
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -hugo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2008 7:55 AM, Carsten Dominik <carsten.dominik@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Hugo,
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure what the purpose of this is.  The ## stuff at the
>>>> beginning
>>>> is stuff to remind the user on how to proceed further.  What is the
>>>> idea
>>>> of Sacha you are referring to?  What is the use case?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 14, 2008, at 8:45 PM, Hugo Schmitt wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks!
>>>>> I'm sending this as a suggestion.
>>>>> Right now the function 'org-remember-handler' removes the lines on
>>>>> the
>>>>> beginning of the buffer that start with "##" (the ones explaining
>>>>> usage, shortcuts, etc)
>>>>> Yesterday i was trying out sachac's idea of putting quotes into
>>>>> remember (on the bottom), but the text that went there was being
>>>>> added
>>>>> to the todo.org with the actual todo.
>>>>>
>>>>> W/ the fix org also removes the lines on the end that begin with
>>>>> '##'.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> -Hugo
>>>>> <org.el.patch>_______________________________________________
>>>>> Emacs-orgmode mailing list
>>>>> Remember: use `Reply All' to send replies to the list.
>>>>> Emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
>>>>> http://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/emacs-orgmode
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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