From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [Emacs-diffs] scratch/widen-less a4ba846: Replace prog-widen with consolidating widen calls Date: Tue, 05 Dec 2017 17:57:04 +0000 Message-ID: References: <20171129233237.27462.23351@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <5d668ce5-1482-a3d4-c01b-7d996a532567@yandex.ru> <20171130214621.GA22157@ACM> <27985594-3bb4-ce88-8928-2ccfeac13eae@yandex.ru> <20171201154913.GB3840@ACM> <1e542021-e389-cca4-6acd-349efddb2652@yandex.ru> <20171201223529.GG3840@ACM> <4a94ec5c-efdd-50f1-ff4d-277f5f45c2df@yandex.ru> <83lgil1qme.fsf@gnu.org> <83d13x1j2s.fsf@gnu.org> <34abea95-c7f7-e8fa-8407-8c2fd2a4cfe1@yandex.ru> <83y3mkzw1n.fsf@gnu.org> <83mv2zzv7z.fsf@gnu.org> <83r2saxyj1.fsf@gnu.org> <83efoaxv0c.fsf@gnu.org> <57382399-5efa-655f-e374-fbe1ef9d89aa@yandex.ru> <27732BB8-B3B7-4489-963E-A09333026A8E@gnu.org> <394bc7ba-76d7-229e-c45b-dc1c8bc86b22@yandex.ru> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1512496693 5477 195.159.176.226 (5 Dec 2017 17:58:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 17:58:13 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Dmitry Gutov ,Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 05 18:58:06 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1eMHTl-0000so-AJ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 18:58:01 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51435 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMHTs-0004Lp-Eb for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 12:58:08 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59175) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMHTJ-0004Kz-SI for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 12:57:34 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMHTF-0001gh-25 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 12:57:33 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::e]:53679) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1eMHSy-0001X6-G7; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 12:57:12 -0500 Original-Received: from [176.12.136.31] (port=50052 helo=[10.208.45.224]) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.82) (envelope-from ) id 1eMHSx-0000zi-8U; Tue, 05 Dec 2017 12:57:12 -0500 In-Reply-To: <394bc7ba-76d7-229e-c45b-dc1c8bc86b22@yandex.ru> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 2001:4830:134:3::e X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:220745 Archived-At: On December 5, 2017 12:55:46 PM GMT+00:00, Dmitry Gutov wrote: > On 12/5/17 7:08 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 > > I understand that you and Stefan think so, but doing that > unconditionally > > means these changes cannot be committed to emacs-26=2E I was > > trying to find a way of squeezing them into the release branch, but > if > > you think there's no way, it's fine with me to have this on master=2E >=20 > Suppose the patch goes on master=2E >=20 > Do I actually remove all references to prog-indentation-context like=20 > shown on the branch? Despite that it will be present in Emacs 26? >=20 > What about NEWS? Will it say "prog-indentation-context was removed, > and=20 > a different protocol for multi-major-mode buffers is established now"? >=20 > These questions are still unresolved, and there's no point in delaying >=20 > those decisions=2E I posted a more or less complete proposal for how to make the changes you = want without breaking previous facilities=2E If you agree with that propos= al (which IMO makes sense even for master), then most of the issues you rai= se disappear=2E If you disagree, please respond to that message of mine ex= plaining why, and let's discuss that first=2E