From: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Existing redisplay profiling tool?
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 19:49:28 -0700 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C4B7C984-F6FF-4E2A-A143-9BC010F0DC12@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86jzfbdc42.fsf@gnu.org>
> On Sep 16, 2024, at 5:19 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>> From: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 23:16:48 -0700
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>>
>>> How about using the scrolling benchmark through xdisp.c while
>>> profiling?
>>>
>>> (defun scroll-up-benchmark ()
>>> (interactive)
>>> (let ((oldgc gcs-done)
>>> (oldtime (float-time)))
>>> (condition-case nil (while t (scroll-up) (redisplay))
>>> (error (message "GCs: %d Elapsed time: %f seconds"
>>> (- gcs-done oldgc) (- (float-time) oldtime))))))
>>>
>>> Evaluate the above, then turn on profiling, then type
>>> "M-x scroll-up-benchmark RET" with point at beginning
>>> of buffer that visits xdisp.c under c-ts-mode.
>>
>> Thanks! I’m hoping to measure the perceived responsiveness when typing text in the buffer, so here’s what I came up with:
>>
>> (let ((prev-time (current-time))
>> (measurements nil))
>> (dotimes (_ 100)
>> (insert "s")
>> (redisplay)
>> (push (float-time (time-subtract (current-time) prev-time))
>> measurements)
>> (setq prev-time (current-time)))
>> (message "Average time: %f"
>> (/ (apply #'+ measurements) (length measurements))))
>>
>> Do you think this accurately measures the redisplay time between each keystroke? (Obviously this doesn’t take account of post-command-hook, I only want to measure repose & redisplay here.)
>
> I don't understand why you measure only insertion of a single
> character. This kind of change to buffer text is so frequent that it
> has special optimizations in the display engine, and you might be
> measuring only those special optimizations.
Personally, I’ve had instances where typing was sluggish and I have suspected tree-sitter, but of course it always turns out to be post-command-hook. I’m just curious how long it takes Emacs to be ready to process the next input after each keystroke when using tree-sitter and not using tree-sitter, and with or without my font-lock optimization.
Work done by display engine isn’t really what I’m after—I’m sure it’s optimized and fast—it’s the font-lock part. After every keystroke, tree-sitter needs to reparse every parser, and update ranges for all the embedded parsers. Then it needs to go over treesit-font-lock-settings to fontify the changed range.
>
> I proposed a scrolling benchmark because it executes the font-lock
> code many times, and is more expensive than insertion of a single
> character. You might as well try both, and could learn different
> things from each other.
Scrolling benchmark measures scrolling, but I know scrolling is pretty fast and I’ve never had problem with it. Also no reparse and parser range update happens during scrolling, while when typing they happen after every keystroke.
>
> A variant of the above scrolling benchmark is scrolling by many lines
> in one go (it causes a larger mismatch between the previous and the
> current window, so redisplay is forced to use yet another code path
> for that):
>
> (defun scroll-up-by-40-benchmark ()
> (interactive)
> (let ((oldgc gcs-done)
> (oldtime (float-time)))
> (condition-case nil (while t (scroll-up 40) (redisplay))
> (error (message "GCs: %d Elapsed time: %f seconds"
> (- gcs-done oldgc) (- (float-time) oldtime))))))
>
>> If that’s an accurate measurements, then my optimization doesn’t make any significant difference :-)
>> In xdisp.c, inserting 100 “s” takes about 17.8ms per “keystroke” on average. With optimization it’s about 16.7ms, not much difference.
>
> That's because redisplay is careful to redraw only a single screen
> line when a single character is added. I'm not sure this is the only
> situation that is interesting for you, but then I don't really know
> what you are trying to optimize.
I’m trying to optimize (or at least verify) typing delay. I want to measure how long it takes Emacs to process everything and be ready for next input after each keystroke.
>
>> I guess the takeaway is a) my new optimization doesn’t do anything, and b) tree-sitter font-lock doesn’t add human-perceivable latency when typing.
>
> Try the other benchmarks, and maybe you will arrive at different
> conclusions.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2024-09-17 2:49 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2024-09-14 18:20 Existing redisplay profiling tool? Yuan Fu
2024-09-14 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16 6:16 ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-16 12:19 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-17 2:49 ` Yuan Fu [this message]
2024-09-17 12:38 ` Eli Zaretskii
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