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From: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Existing redisplay profiling tool?
Date: Mon, 16 Sep 2024 19:49:28 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C4B7C984-F6FF-4E2A-A143-9BC010F0DC12@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <86jzfbdc42.fsf@gnu.org>



> On Sep 16, 2024, at 5:19 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> 
>> From: Yuan Fu <casouri@gmail.com>
>> Date: Sun, 15 Sep 2024 23:16:48 -0700
>> Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
>> 
>>> How about using the scrolling benchmark through xdisp.c while
>>> profiling?
>>> 
>>> (defun scroll-up-benchmark ()
>>> (interactive)
>>> (let ((oldgc gcs-done)
>>>       (oldtime (float-time)))
>>>   (condition-case nil (while t (scroll-up) (redisplay))
>>>     (error (message "GCs: %d Elapsed time: %f seconds"
>>>                     (- gcs-done oldgc) (- (float-time) oldtime))))))
>>> 
>>> Evaluate the above, then turn on profiling, then type
>>> "M-x scroll-up-benchmark RET" with point at beginning
>>> of buffer that visits xdisp.c under c-ts-mode.
>> 
>> Thanks! I’m hoping to measure the perceived responsiveness when typing text in the buffer, so here’s what I came up with:
>> 
>> (let ((prev-time (current-time))
>>      (measurements nil))
>>  (dotimes (_ 100)
>>    (insert "s")
>>    (redisplay)
>>    (push (float-time (time-subtract (current-time) prev-time))
>>          measurements)
>>    (setq prev-time (current-time)))
>>  (message "Average time: %f"
>>           (/ (apply #'+ measurements) (length measurements))))
>> 
>> Do you think this accurately measures the redisplay time between each keystroke? (Obviously this doesn’t take account of post-command-hook, I only want to measure repose & redisplay here.)
> 
> I don't understand why you measure only insertion of a single
> character.  This kind of change to buffer text is so frequent that it
> has special optimizations in the display engine, and you might be
> measuring only those special optimizations.

Personally, I’ve had instances where typing was sluggish and I have suspected tree-sitter, but of course it always turns out to be post-command-hook. I’m just curious how long it takes Emacs to be ready to process the next input after each keystroke when using tree-sitter and not using tree-sitter, and with or without my font-lock optimization.

Work done by display engine isn’t really what I’m after—I’m sure it’s optimized and fast—it’s the font-lock part. After every keystroke, tree-sitter needs to reparse every parser, and update ranges for all the embedded parsers. Then it needs to go over treesit-font-lock-settings to fontify the changed range.

> 
> I proposed a scrolling benchmark because it executes the font-lock
> code many times, and is more expensive than insertion of a single
> character.  You might as well try both, and could learn different
> things from each other.

Scrolling benchmark measures scrolling, but I know scrolling is pretty fast and I’ve never had problem with it. Also no reparse and parser range update happens during scrolling, while when typing they happen after every keystroke.

> 
> A variant of the above scrolling benchmark is scrolling by many lines
> in one go (it causes a larger mismatch between the previous and the
> current window, so redisplay is forced to use yet another code path
> for that):
> 
> (defun scroll-up-by-40-benchmark ()
>  (interactive)
>  (let ((oldgc gcs-done)
>        (oldtime (float-time)))
>    (condition-case nil (while t (scroll-up 40) (redisplay))
>      (error (message "GCs: %d Elapsed time: %f seconds"
>                      (- gcs-done oldgc) (- (float-time) oldtime))))))
> 
>> If that’s an accurate measurements, then my optimization doesn’t make any significant difference :-)
>> In xdisp.c, inserting 100 “s” takes about 17.8ms per “keystroke” on average. With optimization it’s about 16.7ms, not much difference.
> 
> That's because redisplay is careful to redraw only a single screen
> line when a single character is added.  I'm not sure this is the only
> situation that is interesting for you, but then I don't really know
> what you are trying to optimize.

I’m trying to optimize (or at least verify) typing delay. I want to measure how long it takes Emacs to process everything and be ready for next input after each keystroke.

> 
>> I guess the takeaway is a) my new optimization doesn’t do anything, and b) tree-sitter font-lock doesn’t add human-perceivable latency when typing.
> 
> Try the other benchmarks, and maybe you will arrive at different
> conclusions.




  reply	other threads:[~2024-09-17  2:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-09-14 18:20 Existing redisplay profiling tool? Yuan Fu
2024-09-14 19:10 ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-16  6:16   ` Yuan Fu
2024-09-16 12:19     ` Eli Zaretskii
2024-09-17  2:49       ` Yuan Fu [this message]
2024-09-17 12:38         ` Eli Zaretskii

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