From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jean-Christophe Helary Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: emacs vs emacs -nw Date: Tue, 30 May 2017 08:09:58 +0900 Message-ID: References: <2F1B5934-A250-4A91-82DA-BE33CDF02DAE@gmail.com> <83efv7ftcz.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1496099415 22663 195.159.176.226 (29 May 2017 23:10:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 May 2017 23:10:15 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue May 30 01:10:11 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dFTnf-0005g7-0L for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 30 May 2017 01:10:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50806 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFTnh-0003o6-1e for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 29 May 2017 19:10:13 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:47138) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFTna-0003lR-KP for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2017 19:10:07 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFTnX-00061e-GQ for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2017 19:10:06 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-pf0-x22c.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c]:33270) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1dFTnX-00061X-8u for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 29 May 2017 19:10:03 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-pf0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id e193so55065936pfh.0 for ; Mon, 29 May 2017 16:10:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=xpz0QwOefepweBKLpAlY8krYhpAWbNhYobNDP9Vg2bU=; b=uABSbJg4+grJ95EUEnoa12INSrU3zyAiIrJAAdXWHliMX9kDDj+RRadNAiHWBCfFDm qB0mOig3RVd1MtHyZ/vFcgjcCsL+6SentJSJnv6kC5y/oJCOWc8TnEktYGe+qoTchXCw kpYukeOTiN4BEgwiqkir6far8Nw5CBi02TutH2tXc9EQUOGBahxv+fj6EMMOgy3paTuC MOInerPxhb2FRu1v2U7FP892fIGLYIrB72oNv5SphZypePcU5DPVHyp40ypnv0LILT2e vFABQVboBkjO6h9wQC+CGOMDDRR3V7bztZXhtqfZ0Ew/UIWDuQScr7GdPgf/VAvSTnnc 0hUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=xpz0QwOefepweBKLpAlY8krYhpAWbNhYobNDP9Vg2bU=; b=r0L5pHZbh/wP7cWDKvrGKhUzeu+glLraJ5Gcd6fx64KJ+9CWOGHZUD04N6AWDiamXS P1U6rrIupvGASuaKEA3uka/Y6bOyZkITGSb9khPbsG/RuEmcOSFTEo1f52YIqp250mC5 4ItwgBvxc+ZE01RIPTysEd9YT/v5eqNc652R2J2Bb1GeBH2wMyAxlR6ei+fJw8QRPM3x nPvNoWxeMy5fbdeJ3C2iDl5YDlLHphyLMzLzH108F20eQgxt6EJlzYgF2bT+RTWpDYx9 wEdjXnyOVfhW9J1YEQq21pcviB3ZUIj3g2nTi9kAv2W64dXHZxPNfiEeku8tevYDn/cY gfOA== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcByxWQEIkStTBUuigvmfTEvITjYyGBojqSJBVFVDFWpU19Qzu/L WerRajPrMwg1RSOKjKI5Xg== X-Received: by 10.98.92.67 with SMTP id q64mr20445262pfb.117.1496099401881; Mon, 29 May 2017 16:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [192.168.24.63] (pl25298.ag0304.nttpc.ne.jp. [133.232.153.210]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id t19sm20209545pfg.31.2017.05.29.16.10.00 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 29 May 2017 16:10:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83efv7ftcz.fsf@gnu.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400e:c00::22c X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:215327 Archived-At: > On May 30, 2017, at 2:47, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >=20 >> emacs and emacs -nw seem to have different initialisation parameters = that I can't seem to disable even when I run emacs -Q. I'd like to have = hints for further investigation... >>=20 >> Practically speaking, emacs in a graphical frame seems to re-bind a = number of org-mode keys while emacs -nw gets the expected bindings. >>=20 >> This happens *even* when I run emacs -Q vs emacs -Q -nw >=20 > On what OS? macOS. I also get this behavior in Aquamacs. Jean-Christophe=20=