From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#13480: 24.3.50; `C-w' from Isearch should translate newlines to spaces Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:01:11 -0800 Message-ID: References: <87r4ljh54a.fsf@mail.jurta.org><87wqva2lvg.fsf@mail.jurta.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1358607734 6672 80.91.229.3 (19 Jan 2013 15:02:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:02:14 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 13480@debbugs.gnu.org To: "'Dani Moncayo'" , "'Juri Linkov'" Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Jan 19 16:02:32 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TwZwG-00034W-0U for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 16:02:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45082 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwZvz-0000PL-15 for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:02:15 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:47573) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwZvv-0000P8-DS for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:02:13 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwZvu-0006T1-77 for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:02:11 -0500 Original-Received: from debbugs.gnu.org ([140.186.70.43]:34964) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TwZvu-0006Sx-3j for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:02:10 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-debbugs by debbugs.gnu.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwZwk-00087u-CV for bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:03:02 -0500 X-Loop: help-debbugs@gnu.org Resent-From: "Drew Adams" Original-Sender: debbugs-submit-bounces@debbugs.gnu.org Resent-CC: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Resent-Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:03:02 +0000 Resent-Message-ID: Resent-Sender: help-debbugs@gnu.org X-GNU-PR-Message: followup 13480 X-GNU-PR-Package: emacs X-GNU-PR-Keywords: Original-Received: via spool by 13480-submit@debbugs.gnu.org id=B13480.135860773731181 (code B ref 13480); Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:03:02 +0000 Original-Received: (at 13480) by debbugs.gnu.org; 19 Jan 2013 15:02:17 +0000 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:40428 helo=debbugs.gnu.org) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwZvz-00086r-Ke for submit@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:02:16 -0500 Original-Received: from aserp1040.oracle.com ([141.146.126.69]:49259) by debbugs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1TwZvx-00086j-7y for 13480@debbugs.gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 10:02:14 -0500 Original-Received: from acsinet22.oracle.com (acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238]) by aserp1040.oracle.com (Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2/Sentrion-MTA-4.2.2) with ESMTP id r0JF1IXm004934 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=OK); Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:01:19 GMT Original-Received: from acsmt357.oracle.com (acsmt357.oracle.com [141.146.40.157]) by acsinet22.oracle.com (8.14.4+Sun/8.14.4) with ESMTP id r0JF1IBF026398 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Sat, 19 Jan 2013 15:01:18 GMT Original-Received: from abhmt115.oracle.com (abhmt115.oracle.com [141.146.116.67]) by acsmt357.oracle.com (8.12.11.20060308/8.12.11) with ESMTP id r0JF1Irm007758; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 09:01:18 -0600 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/71.202.147.44) by default (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Sat, 19 Jan 2013 07:01:17 -0800 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.6157 Thread-Index: Ac32K17pYNGQZ5wdR4W1yxOyGfQhKQAKSZvA X-Source-IP: acsinet22.oracle.com [141.146.126.238] X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.6.x X-Received-From: 140.186.70.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:70034 Archived-At: > > 2. It is less surprising and more clean to me to see in the > > echo area exactly the text I'm supplying, without translations > > of any kind. > > Well, OTOH it makes a lot of sense to think of the text displayed in > the echo area (during Isearch) not necessarily as the raw search > string, but as its "canonical form", according to the current matching > behavior (which the user should be able to alter on-the-fly). > > Definitely that would be a nice behavior, and not only for the laxity > in whitespace matching, but also in other ones discussed recently like > those related to accented. Yes, it would be good, if possible, for a user to be able to toggle between a raw search string that Isearch uses under the covers and its effective or more visually convenient representation. This can be useful in regexp searching, of course. And it can be useful if a user switches from plain search to regexp and wants to retrieve the underlying regexp and tweak it. We discussed this a couple of times, IIRC. In connection with letting `.' match also newlines, letting SPC represent a more complex whitespace regexp, and maybe in connection with accents etc. E.g., a regexp or other pattern that matches any char including newlines or any whitespace or the chars in an equivalence class ignoring diacritics. Sorry, I don't have references to the discussions.