* bug#39893: 27.0.90; cannot turn on orgtbl
@ 2020-03-04 8:11 Tak Kunihiro
2020-03-04 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tak Kunihiro @ 2020-03-04 8:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 39893; +Cc: 国広卓也
I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require 'org).
It is autoload function. I guess this is bug.
$ emacs --version
GNU Emacs 27.0.90 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS appkit-1671.60 Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G3020)) of 2020-03-04
$ emacs -Q
(turn-on-orgtbl) ;=> progn: Symbol’s function definition is void: turn-on-orgtbl
(require 'org-table)
(turn-on-orgtbl) ;=> orgtbl-mode: Symbol’s function definition is void: org-load-modules-maybe
(require 'org)
(turn-on-orgtbl) ;=> t
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* bug#39893: 27.0.90; cannot turn on orgtbl
2020-03-04 8:11 bug#39893: 27.0.90; cannot turn on orgtbl Tak Kunihiro
@ 2020-03-04 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-03-04 16:04 ` Noam Postavsky
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Eli Zaretskii @ 2020-03-04 15:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tak Kunihiro; +Cc: 39893
> From: Tak Kunihiro <tak.kunihiro@gmail.com>
> Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2020 17:11:25 +0900
> Cc: 国広卓也 <tak.kunihiro@gmail.com>
>
> I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require 'org).
> It is autoload function. I guess this is bug.
Is it? The autoloads from the org-*.el files go to org-loaddefs.el,
which is loaded by org.el. So this looks to me correct and expected.
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* bug#39893: 27.0.90; cannot turn on orgtbl
2020-03-04 15:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
@ 2020-03-04 16:04 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-03-04 23:17 ` Tak Kunihiro
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Noam Postavsky @ 2020-03-04 16:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Eli Zaretskii; +Cc: Tak Kunihiro, 39893
Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>> I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require 'org).
>> It is autoload function. I guess this is bug.
>
> Is it? The autoloads from the org-*.el files go to org-loaddefs.el,
> which is loaded by org.el. So this looks to me correct and expected.
I think it's mainly a problem with the *Help* display causing wrong
expectations, see also Bug#26782 "describe-function and autoloads not in
main loaddefs" and Bug#33901 "cl-letf is unexpectedly not autoloaded".
https://debbugs.gnu.org/26782
https://debbugs.gnu.org/33901
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* bug#39893: 27.0.90; cannot turn on orgtbl
2020-03-04 16:04 ` Noam Postavsky
@ 2020-03-04 23:17 ` Tak Kunihiro
2020-03-14 1:08 ` Tak Kunihiro
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tak Kunihiro @ 2020-03-04 23:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 39893; +Cc: 国広卓也, Noam Postavsky
I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require ‘org) on 27.0.90.
I can call turn-on-orgtbl without (require ‘org) on 26.3.
Thus I thought something unexpected happen. If it is expected
behavior, I think it’s okay.
$ emacs —version
GNU Emacs 26.3 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS appkit-1671.60 Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G2022)) of 2020-01-23
$ emacs -Q
(turn-on-orgtbl) ;=> t
> On Mar 5, 2020, at 01:04 , Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:
>
>>> I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require 'org).
>>> It is autoload function. I guess this is bug.
>>
>> Is it? The autoloads from the org-*.el files go to org-loaddefs.el,
>> which is loaded by org.el. So this looks to me correct and expected.
>
> I think it's mainly a problem with the *Help* display causing wrong
> expectations, see also Bug#26782 "describe-function and autoloads not in
> main loaddefs" and Bug#33901 "cl-letf is unexpectedly not autoloaded".
>
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/26782
> https://debbugs.gnu.org/33901
> On Mar 4, 2020, at 17:11 , Tak Kunihiro <tak.kunihiro@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I cannot call turn-on-orgtbl without (require 'org).
> It is autoload function. I guess this is bug.
>
> $ emacs --version
> GNU Emacs 27.0.90 (build 1, x86_64-apple-darwin18.7.0, NS appkit-1671.60 Version 10.14.6 (Build 18G3020)) of 2020-03-04
> $ emacs -Q
> (turn-on-orgtbl) ;=> progn: Symbol’s function definition is void: turn-on-orgtbl
> (require 'org-table)
> (turn-on-orgtbl) ;=> orgtbl-mode: Symbol’s function definition is void: org-load-modules-maybe
> (require 'org)
> (turn-on-orgtbl) ;=> t
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* bug#39893: 27.0.90; cannot turn on orgtbl
2020-03-04 23:17 ` Tak Kunihiro
@ 2020-03-14 1:08 ` Tak Kunihiro
2020-03-14 3:20 ` Noam Postavsky
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Tak Kunihiro @ 2020-03-14 1:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tak Kunihiro; +Cc: tkk, Noam Postavsky, 39893
tags 39893 notabug
close 39893
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* bug#39893: 27.0.90; cannot turn on orgtbl
2020-03-14 1:08 ` Tak Kunihiro
@ 2020-03-14 3:20 ` Noam Postavsky
0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Noam Postavsky @ 2020-03-14 3:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Tak Kunihiro; +Cc: tkk, Tak Kunihiro, 39893
Tak Kunihiro <homeros.misasa@gmail.com> writes:
> tags 39893 notabug
> close 39893
You have to send this text to control@debbugs.gnu.org in order for it to
have any effect.
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