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From: "Jan Djärv" <jan.h.d@swipnet.se>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: 16196@debbugs.gnu.org
Subject: bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling
Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2013 11:44:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C3F659BF-9AAE-4590-8F8C-A8FDEE0372DA@swipnet.se> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwveh549tj9.fsf-monnier+emacsbugs@gnu.org>

Hello.

23 dec 2013 kl. 03:46 skrev Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>:

>>>> That'd be a serious change of behavior, so it
>>>> should be discussed and/or users polled before we do that, I think.
>>> Best make it an option then.  Does not require polling.
>> I don't think an option will raise any objections.  Patches welcome.
> 
> Can be seen as a generalization of scroll-error-top-bottom.
> 
> I'm not opposed to such an option, but I'm not convinced that changing
> the default behavior is a good idea: the general design of Emacs is that
> we strive to make every command perform *something*, so when the user's
> request ends up doing nothing, we signal an error to make it clear that
> Emacs did obey the request.  Otherwise the lack of feedback can make the
> user feel like Emacs is unresponsive.

The main use case here is "flinging" with a trackpad.  In that case, Emacs already responds by scrolling up/down to the top/bottom.  It is after Emacs has hit top/bottom that the "extra" beeps occur.

If already at the top/bottom, the normal thing for OSX apps is to "bounce" a bit to show that the display is already at the top/bottom.  If at the top, the whole page is moved a bit downwards and then bounces back.  This is not common in X, so not really appropriate for Emacs.

	Jan D.






  reply	other threads:[~2013-12-23 10:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-12-20  6:08 bug#16196: 24.3.50; Disable ding when scrolling Jan Djärv
2013-12-20  8:56 ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 10:26   ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:32     ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:48       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 17:52         ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 18:10           ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-20 18:48             ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 20:35               ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-12-23  2:46                 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-12-23 10:44                   ` Jan Djärv [this message]
2014-01-03 22:57                     ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-03 23:46                       ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-04  0:03                         ` Drew Adams
2014-01-04  5:07                         ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  9:40                           ` Jan Djärv
2014-01-04 13:43                           ` martin rudalics
2014-01-04 20:40                             ` Stefan Monnier
2014-01-04  7:25                         ` Eli Zaretskii
2014-01-04  9:36                           ` Jan Djärv
2013-12-20 10:43     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-09  7:55 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-09  8:57   ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-10 18:07     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-11 14:28       ` Basil L. Contovounesios
2019-08-12  0:52         ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 13:26           ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 13:55             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-09-30 14:03             ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30 14:11               ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-30 14:19                 ` Stefan Kangas
2019-09-30 21:51                   ` Stefan Kangas
2019-10-04 16:11                     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-09  9:00   ` martin rudalics
2019-08-10 18:23     ` Stefan Kangas
2019-08-11  8:17       ` martin rudalics

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