From: Ian Eure <ian@digg.com>
To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: emacs mode line suggestions
Date: Sun, 16 Nov 2008 15:12:13 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <C3F637C4-DE20-4341-88C7-B70DC0AA5924@digg.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <gfpoap$iqj$3@news.motzarella.org>
On Nov 16, 2008, at 10:20 AM, Richard Riley wrote:
> Ian Eure <ian@digg.com> writes:
>>
>> My objection is to the idea that you don't want star buffers in the
>> list. These are also used for interaction with external processes:
>> *ssh: host*, *SQL: foo*, *Twit-recent*, *compilation*, *shell*,
>> *Python*. It seems ill advised to exclude those from the list.
>
> The kind of user that might want to see them is clued in enough to
> use a
> prefix or customise their setup accordingly.
>
That's not the point. A behavior is being suggested which has a
serious usability negative. Your argument cuts both ways; anyone who
might use the existing mechanism surely is clued in enough to know how
to use it, so why bother changing it, either?
Consider:
1. Edit stuff.
2. Create a *shell* buffer, do work in the shell.
3. Switch back to editing.
4. Try to go back to the shell - but wait, it's gone! What happened?
It's equally confusing. If you want to improve things, great, but
replacing one crappy behavior with a different crappy behavior is a
waste.
> I must say I agree with Xah and the "well thats the way its always
> been"
> kind of reply is not constructive in the slightest.
>
Did you actually read my reply? Because I criticized the proposal on
it's merits, and never said anything remotely like that.
- Ian.
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2008-11-14 23:18 ` emacs mode line suggestions Xah
2008-11-15 1:02 ` xahlee
2008-11-15 9:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.423.1226741023.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-16 1:54 ` Xah
2008-11-16 18:12 ` Ian Eure
2008-11-18 9:39 ` Kevin Rodgers
2008-11-18 23:25 ` Xavier Maillard
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2008-11-16 18:20 ` Richard Riley
2008-11-16 23:12 ` Ian Eure [this message]
2008-11-17 8:37 ` Paul R
2008-11-17 15:45 ` Drew Adams
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2008-11-17 16:11 ` Richard Riley
2008-11-17 18:53 ` Drew Adams
2008-11-17 19:10 ` Richard Riley
2008-11-17 19:57 ` Drew Adams
2008-11-17 20:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.621.1226951870.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-17 21:42 ` Richard Riley
2008-11-18 0:55 ` Drew Adams
[not found] ` <mailman.641.1226969742.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-18 1:08 ` Richard Riley
2008-11-18 2:55 ` Drew Adams
2008-11-17 23:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-11-18 7:52 ` Paul R
2008-11-18 13:48 ` Alan Mackenzie
[not found] ` <mailman.543.1226877138.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-16 23:35 ` Richard Riley
2008-11-16 22:45 ` Xah
2008-11-16 21:40 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.536.1226871605.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-16 23:17 ` Xah
2008-11-17 20:39 ` Eli Zaretskii
2008-11-17 23:46 ` Alan Mackenzie
2008-11-18 0:31 ` Lennart Borgman
2008-11-18 9:32 ` Kevin Rodgers
2008-11-18 9:58 ` Alan Mackenzie
[not found] ` <mailman.633.1226964831.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-18 9:46 ` Fabrice Niessen
[not found] ` <mailman.623.1226954396.26697.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2008-11-17 22:09 ` Xah
2008-11-18 2:33 ` B. T. Raven
2008-11-18 3:24 ` Xah
2008-11-18 4:58 ` B. T. Raven
2008-11-18 6:54 ` Richard Riley
2008-11-18 4:11 ` Eli Zaretskii
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