From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Peter Dyballa Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel,gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs Subject: Re: 23.0.60; describe-char gives wrong information Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:30:38 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3167E3EC-A084-4229-9531-AC3E5BDF69BB@Freenet.DE> <60200667-2BCD-4D24-BC0F-700361E632A2@Freenet.DE> <37765195-4505-4662-AE93-5B78556F67F6@Freenet.DE> <7A846B7D-1005-463E-B704-81895DD7FBDC@Freenet.DE> <21707F94-9353-4F39-814B-F10146374B18@Freenet.DE> <75C1B4E4-16F3-44A0-8053-79B4414598F6@Freenet.DE> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201772151 30891 80.91.229.12 (31 Jan 2008 09:35:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2008 09:35:51 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org To: Kenichi Handa Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Jan 31 10:36:11 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JKVq6-00039X-Hg for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:36:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKVpe-0003vS-VR for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:35:43 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKVkz-0000rA-G3 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:30:54 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JKVkw-0000qN-Cb for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:30:51 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JKVkv-0000qI-VM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:30:50 -0500 Original-Received: from fencepost.gnu.org ([140.186.70.10]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKVkw-0007AV-1V for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:30:50 -0500 Original-Received: from mail.gnu.org ([199.232.76.166] helo=mx10.gnu.org) by fencepost.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1JKVkv-0005rB-DD for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:30:49 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by monty-python.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKVks-00079Z-Li for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:30:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mout1.freenet.de ([195.4.92.91]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JKVks-000799-AZ for emacs-pretest-bug@gnu.org; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 04:30:46 -0500 Original-Received: from [195.4.92.20] (helo=10.mx.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1JKVkp-0002bY-OL; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:30:43 +0100 Original-Received: from fcd97.f.ppp-pool.de ([195.4.205.151]:54904 helo=[192.168.1.2]) by 10.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID peter_dyballa@freenet.de) (TLSv1:AES128-SHA:128) (port 25) (Exim 4.68 #9) id 1JKVkp-00057P-EJ; Thu, 31 Jan 2008 10:30:43 +0100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6 (newer, 3) X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.6, seldom 2.4 (older, 4) X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87845 gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs:20814 Archived-At: Am 31.01.2008 um 02:19 schrieb Kenichi Handa: > >> Yes, it is now as fast as if started with --disable-font-backend, but >> the window opens (again) as a very small one: > >> Corners: +113+33 -1129+33 -1129-675 +113-675 >> -geometry 27x15+111+11 > >> Correct would be, from ~/.Xdefaults (Emacs*geometry: 97x53+111+11): > >> Corners: +113+33 -709+33 -709-257 +113-257 >> -geometry 97x53+111+11 > > Is it a new problem? Doesn't it happen with Emacs 22? This is a new problem and it does not happen with GNU Emacsen 22.1.50 =20= and 23.0.50. > >> GNU Emacs does not change the HELLO buffer, they have different >> looks, depending on the number of fonts found. > > I don't understand what you mean. > Before, when GNU Emacs 23.0.60 was launched with font-backend =20 disabled it polluted and changed somehow the HELLO buffer, as I =20 reported. This does not happen anymore. Still GNU Emacs with enabled =20 font-backend shows less non-Latin glyphs. -- Greetings Pete Let's face it; we don't want a free market economy either. =96 James Farley, president, Coca-Cola Export Corp., = 1959