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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "'Lennart Borgman'" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>,
	"'Miles Bader'" <miles@gnu.org>
Cc: 'David De La Harpe Golden' <david@harpegolden.net>,
	'Chong Yidong' <cyd@stupidchicken.com>,
	emacs-devel@gnu.org, 'Juri Linkov' <juri@jurta.org>,
	'Dan Nicolaescu' <dann@ics.uci.edu>,
	'Stefan Monnier' <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: RE: Darkening font-lock colors
Date: Mon, 3 Aug 2009 15:40:33 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C196A33DCAB9492CB6883B0B1900A7FF@us.oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <e01d8a50908031301o1f7d443cs3a49b1c08c9c0502@mail.gmail.com>

> I have found it surpisingly hard to find colors that have both good
> luminance color contrast (accessibility, suggested by WCAG) and are
> distinguishable and pleasant (usability). And then I did not even
> consider color blindness (which I think should go on top of this).

1. The solution to that dilemna of contrasting needs is not a compromise. It is
to offer 3 or more general settings. Themes, if you like, but it need not be as
full-blown as themes. Even just 3 choices for a small set of default faces would
be a good first step.


2. FWIW, I am against having both foregrounds and backgrounds defined for faces
such as font-lock faces, that is, for the default values. Distracting & ugly.
Also, they look odd when over trailing whitespace.

Such faces can be OK for things like headings and directories in Dired.
Otherwise, they are not very helpful, IMO.

(Faces that are background only (no foreground) are good for highlighting,
obviously.)

The main thing is that faces intended for text, especially large chunks of text,
should avoid using a background.

Just one opinion.





  reply	other threads:[~2009-08-03 22:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-30 21:12 Darkening font-lock colors Chong Yidong
2009-07-30 21:39 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-07-30 21:51   ` Drew Adams
2009-07-30 22:00     ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-30 21:57   ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-30 22:21     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-07-30 23:40       ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-07-31  0:18         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-31  0:55           ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-31  3:01             ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-31 15:39               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-02 20:22               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-02 22:36                 ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-02 22:40                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-03  0:16                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03  1:09                     ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-10  0:14                       ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-10  2:37                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-10  3:28                           ` Miles Bader
2009-08-10 23:56                             ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03  2:14                     ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-08-03  2:28                       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-03  4:34                         ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-08-03  5:13                         ` Miles Bader
2009-08-03  5:22                           ` Drew Adams
2009-08-03  9:54                             ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03 11:58                               ` Daniel Clemente
2009-08-03 13:49                               ` Drew Adams
2009-08-03 23:32                                 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03 23:46                                   ` Drew Adams
2009-08-03 13:59                               ` joakim
2009-08-03 20:42                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2009-08-08 20:56                                 ` Color themes (was: Darkening font-lock colors) Juri Linkov
2009-08-08 21:16                                   ` Color themes joakim
2009-08-09  3:04                                   ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-09  4:28                                     ` Leo
2009-08-09 16:18                                       ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-09 17:28                                         ` CHENG Gao
2009-08-09 18:05                                         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-09 18:51                                         ` joakim
2009-08-10  9:12                                         ` Leo
2009-08-10 23:48                                           ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-11  1:32                                             ` Leo
2009-08-11  3:58                                           ` Chong Yidong
2009-08-11  4:26                                             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-11  5:52                                               ` Drew Adams
2009-08-11  5:52                                             ` Drew Adams
2009-08-11  8:59                                             ` Leo
2009-08-11 18:21                                               ` ferkiwi
2009-08-03 20:01                           ` Darkening font-lock colors Lennart Borgman
2009-08-03 22:40                             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2009-08-03 22:57                               ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-03 23:54                                 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-04  0:10                                   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-04  0:16                                     ` Drew Adams
2009-08-04 21:27                                     ` Johan Bockgård
2009-08-04 23:16                                       ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-03 23:27                         ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03 23:42                           ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-31  0:55       ` Chong Yidong
2009-07-31  2:39         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-03  0:17           ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03  3:44             ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-03  9:59               ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-03 12:34                 ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-03 14:21                   ` Stephen Eilert
2009-08-03 21:11                   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-08-03 23:02                     ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-04  8:27                       ` Romain Francoise
2009-08-04  8:29                         ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-04 22:44                         ` Dan Nicolaescu
2009-08-03 23:32                   ` Juri Linkov
2009-07-31  0:46   ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-30 21:41 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-07-30 22:22 ` Deniz Dogan
2009-07-31  1:50   ` Stefan Monnier
2009-07-31  3:54 ` tomas
2009-08-04 22:14 ` Juri Linkov
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-08-03  9:35 Angelo Graziosi
2009-08-03 20:42 Francesc Rocher
2009-08-04  0:16 ` Lennart Borgman
2009-08-04  0:21 ` Drew Adams
2009-08-10 14:15 grischka
2009-08-10 23:57 ` Juri Linkov
2009-08-11 16:07   ` grischka

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