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* Re: GNU Emacs lives, but dead key events aren't accepted anymore
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@ 2008-04-16 10:23 ` dsevilla
  2008-04-16 23:12   ` Peter Dyballa
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: dsevilla @ 2008-04-16 10:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help-gnu-emacs

Hi, Peter:

It is the case for me too, but either it is a problem people don't
notice or they don't have, as I've searched the web and few people
seem to have the same problem. Hope they take it into account soon (I
think it has to be in emacs, as most other software works without any
problem). Also, I've tried the new scim packages and the problem
continues.

Any help you can bring would be much appreciated.

Regards,
diego.

On Mar 18, 2:11 am, Peter Dyballa <Peter_Dyba...@Web.DE> wrote:
> Hello!
>
> I had to reboot my Mac one week ago, and now *all* X client Emacsen  
> (22.1.50...23.0.60) claim:
>
>         <dead-tilde> is undefined
>         <dead-circumflex> is undefined
>         <dead-acute> is undefined
>         <dead-diaeresis> is undefined
>         <S-dead-grave> is undefined
>         <S-dead-circumflex> is undefined
>
> Xev explains, on pressing ~ (which indeed is pressing the alt key  
> [Mode_switch] and n):
>
>         KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
>             root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389703539, (1048,423), root:(1050,445),
>             state 0x0, keycode 66 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen  
> YES,
>             XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>             XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>             XFilterEvent returns: False
>
>         KeyPress event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
>             root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389704095, (1048,423), root:(1050,445),
>             state 0x8, keycode 53 (keysym 0xfe53, dead_tilde), same_screen YES,
>             XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (7e) "~"
>             XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>             XFilterEvent returns: True
>
>         KeyRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
>             root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389704146, (1048,423), root:(1050,445),
>             state 0x8, keycode 53 (keysym 0xfe53, dead_tilde), same_screen YES,
>             XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (7e) "~"
>
>         KeyRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
>             root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389705355, (1048,423), root:(1050,445),
>             state 0x8, keycode 66 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen  
> YES,
>             XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>
> or for ^:
>
>         KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
>             root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389788659, (832,608), root:(834,630),
>             state 0x0, keycode 18 (keysym 0xfe52, dead_circumflex),  
> same_screen YES,
>             XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5e) "^"
>             XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
>             XFilterEvent returns: True
>
>         KeyRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
>             root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389788913, (832,608), root:(834,630),
>             state 0x0, keycode 18 (keysym 0xfe52, dead_circumflex),  
> same_screen YES,
>             XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5e) "^"
>
>         KeyPress event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
>             root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389790846, (832,608), root:(834,630),
>             state 0x0, keycode 57 (keysym 0x20, space), same_screen YES,
>             XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (20) " "
>             XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (20) " "
>             XFilterEvent returns: True
>
>         KeyPress event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
>             root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389790846, (832,608), root:(834,630),
>             state 0x0, keycode 0 (keysym 0x5e, asciicircum), same_screen YES,
>             XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (00) ""
>             XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5e) "^"
>             XFilterEvent returns: False
>
>         KeyRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
>             root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389790954, (832,608), root:(834,630),
>             state 0x0, keycode 57 (keysym 0x20, space), same_screen YES,
>             XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (20) " "
>
> Xmodmap -pk shows (a bit edited):
>
>       18    0xfe52 (dead_circumflex)    0x00b0 (degree)         0x0afe  
> (doublelowquotemark)    0x0ad2    (leftdoublequotemark)
>       30    0x0036 (6)                  0x0026 (ampersand)      0x005d (bracketright)            
> 0xfe52    (dead_circumflex)    
>       32    0xfe51 (dead_acute)         0xfe50 (dead_grave)     0x0027  
> (apostrophe)            0x10002da (U02DA)      
>       40    0x0075 (u)                  0x0055 (U)              0xfe57 (dead_diaeresis)          
> 0x00c1    (Aacute)      
>       53    0x006e (n)                  0x004e (N)              0xfe53 (dead_tilde)             0x100203a  
> (U203A)
>       66    0xff7e (Mode_switch)        
>
> The C header file keysymdef.h contains inside the "ISO 9995 Function  
> and Modifier Keys, Byte 3 = 0xFE" group:
>
>         #ifdef XK_XKB_KEYS
>         #define XK_dead_grave                                   0xFE50
>         #define XK_dead_acute                                   0xFE51
>         #define XK_dead_circumflex                              0xFE52
>         #define XK_dead_tilde                                   0xFE53
>         #define XK_dead_diaeresis                               0xFE57
>         #endif
>
> There does not seem to be any change that *I* could notice. Xterm  
> still sees the characters, and GNU Emacs without windows in xterm  
> sees them also. What could have caused such a change for the X11  
> clients? Probably something in ~/.emacs, when all show it ...
>
> --
> Greetings
>
>    Pete
>
> A lot of people mistake a short memory for a clear conscience.
>                                 - Doug Larson



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* Re: GNU Emacs lives, but dead key events aren't accepted anymore
  2008-04-16 10:23 ` GNU Emacs lives, but dead key events aren't accepted anymore dsevilla
@ 2008-04-16 23:12   ` Peter Dyballa
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2008-04-16 23:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: dsevilla; +Cc: help-gnu-emacs

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Am 16.04.2008 um 12:23 schrieb diego sevilla:

> (I think it has to be in emacs, as most other software works  
> without any problem)

It's probably more complicated since before middle of March all  
versions of GNU Emacs, the X client, worked. Now all versions can't  
understand the set of [`^~´] ... I am on Mac OS X 10.4.11 (Tiger).  
The reported failure coincides a bit with installing the Security  
Update 2008-001 package – but this one does not contain anything X11  
related.

--
Greetings

   Pete

I hope to die before I *have* to use Microsoft Word.
			- Donald E. Knuth, 2001-10-02 in Tübingen.

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* GNU Emacs lives, but dead key events aren't accepted anymore
@ 2008-03-18  0:11 Peter Dyballa
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Peter Dyballa @ 2008-03-18  0:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: help gnu emacs

Hello!

I had to reboot my Mac one week ago, and now *all* X client Emacsen  
(22.1.50...23.0.60) claim:

	<dead-tilde> is undefined
	<dead-circumflex> is undefined
	<dead-acute> is undefined
	<dead-diaeresis> is undefined
	<S-dead-grave> is undefined
	<S-dead-circumflex> is undefined

Xev explains, on pressing ~ (which indeed is pressing the alt key  
[Mode_switch] and n):

	KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
	    root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389703539, (1048,423), root:(1050,445),
	    state 0x0, keycode 66 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen  
YES,
	    XLookupString gives 0 bytes:
	    XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
	    XFilterEvent returns: False
	
	KeyPress event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
	    root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389704095, (1048,423), root:(1050,445),
	    state 0x8, keycode 53 (keysym 0xfe53, dead_tilde), same_screen YES,
	    XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (7e) "~"
	    XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
	    XFilterEvent returns: True
	
	KeyRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
	    root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389704146, (1048,423), root:(1050,445),
	    state 0x8, keycode 53 (keysym 0xfe53, dead_tilde), same_screen YES,
	    XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (7e) "~"
	
	KeyRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
	    root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389705355, (1048,423), root:(1050,445),
	    state 0x8, keycode 66 (keysym 0xff7e, Mode_switch), same_screen  
YES,
	    XLookupString gives 0 bytes:

or for ^:

	KeyPress event, serial 21, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
	    root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389788659, (832,608), root:(834,630),
	    state 0x0, keycode 18 (keysym 0xfe52, dead_circumflex),  
same_screen YES,
	    XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5e) "^"
	    XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes:
	    XFilterEvent returns: True
	
	KeyRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
	    root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389788913, (832,608), root:(834,630),
	    state 0x0, keycode 18 (keysym 0xfe52, dead_circumflex),  
same_screen YES,
	    XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5e) "^"
	
	KeyPress event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
	    root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389790846, (832,608), root:(834,630),
	    state 0x0, keycode 57 (keysym 0x20, space), same_screen YES,
	    XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (20) " "
	    XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (20) " "
	    XFilterEvent returns: True
	
	KeyPress event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
	    root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389790846, (832,608), root:(834,630),
	    state 0x0, keycode 0 (keysym 0x5e, asciicircum), same_screen YES,
	    XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (00) ""
	    XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (5e) "^"
	    XFilterEvent returns: False

	KeyRelease event, serial 23, synthetic NO, window 0x1600001,
	    root 0x57, subw 0x0, time 389790954, (832,608), root:(834,630),
	    state 0x0, keycode 57 (keysym 0x20, space), same_screen YES,
	    XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (20) " "

Xmodmap -pk shows (a bit edited):

      18    0xfe52 (dead_circumflex)	0x00b0 (degree)		0x0afe  
(doublelowquotemark)	0x0ad2	  (leftdoublequotemark)	
      30    0x0036 (6)			0x0026 (ampersand)	0x005d (bracketright)		 
0xfe52 	  (dead_circumflex)	
      32    0xfe51 (dead_acute)		0xfe50 (dead_grave)	0x0027  
(apostrophe)		0x10002da (U02DA)	
      40    0x0075 (u)			0x0055 (U)		0xfe57 (dead_diaeresis)		 
0x00c1	  (Aacute)	
      53    0x006e (n)			0x004e (N)		0xfe53 (dead_tilde)		0x100203a  
(U203A)	
      66    0xff7e (Mode_switch)	

The C header file keysymdef.h contains inside the "ISO 9995 Function  
and Modifier Keys, Byte 3 = 0xFE" group:

	#ifdef XK_XKB_KEYS
	#define	XK_dead_grave					0xFE50
	#define	XK_dead_acute					0xFE51
	#define	XK_dead_circumflex				0xFE52
	#define	XK_dead_tilde					0xFE53
	#define	XK_dead_diaeresis				0xFE57
	#endif


There does not seem to be any change that *I* could notice. Xterm  
still sees the characters, and GNU Emacs without windows in xterm  
sees them also. What could have caused such a change for the X11  
clients? Probably something in ~/.emacs, when all show it ...

--
Greetings

   Pete

A lot of people mistake a short memory for a clear conscience.
				– Doug Larson







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