From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Herb Martin" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: MS Windows "Alt-Menu" support Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 23:15:45 GMT Organization: Road Runner - Texas Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <84vft8t1nd.fsf@slowfox.is.informatik.uni-duisburg.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1060388288 5676 80.91.224.253 (9 Aug 2003 00:18:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2003 00:18:08 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Aug 09 02:18:34 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19lHRK-0006Oj-00 for ; Sat, 09 Aug 2003 02:18:34 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.20) id 19lGi7-0000kC-5R for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 08 Aug 2003 19:31:51 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!elnk-nf2-pas!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!cyclone.socal.rr.com!news-west.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone.austin.rr.com!twister.austin.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 27 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1158 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1165 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.68.35.132 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com Original-X-Trace: twister.austin.rr.com 1060384545 66.68.35.132 (Fri, 08 Aug 2003 18:15:45 CDT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 08 Aug 2003 18:15:45 CDT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:115763 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:11682 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:11682 > I suggested on emacs-devel to change the behavior of Emacs as > follows: Pressing Alt, then hitting f, then releasing Alt, should > behave as it does now -- it should invoke M-f aka forward-word. But > pressing Alt, then releasing Alt, and *then* hitting f should invoke > the menu bar. > > Maybe that might make you happy? I think it is the best compromise. (The is the nicest newsgroup I have seen in a while -- everyone tries to help instead of explaining why I "don't want to do this.") Thanks folks. Actually it is a really good solution and where I was headed on my own -- technically that is the actual behavior in other Windows programs. Most people never notice this behavior since they "hold Alt" but either way works. So, if Emacs modifies this (on Windows at least) then we can re-train our hands to work the same way in all other Windows programs Alt then key BTW, Alt then Alt should counteract -- one activates the menu, second Alt deactivates back to the Window.