From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: can't set both mode-line color and default frame font? Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:38:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190151566 17037 80.91.229.12 (18 Sep 2007 21:39:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2007 21:39:26 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Sep 18 23:39:24 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IXkms-0006NL-RE for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 23:39:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXkmr-0001Nq-Cc for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:39:17 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXkmo-0001Nf-6H for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:39:14 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IXkmm-0001N4-L8 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:39:13 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IXkmm-0001Mw-9k for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:39:12 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IXkml-00057P-O6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 17:39:11 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l8ILd99t023359 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 16:39:09 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id l8IAgSTQ017911 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 15:39:08 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-65-85.vpn.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3223927881190151475; Tue, 18 Sep 2007 14:37:55 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Importance: Normal X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79231 Archived-At: > > customization within Emacs should always > > take priority over the external environment. > > "should always" - hmm > > I'm not necessarily arguing against such a rule, but your > supporting reason for it is...? > > Emacs already takes the context ("external environment") into account in > many ways - from your locale settings to your environment variables. Those > existing behaviors argue against your blanket statement. Unless > they are all wrong also. Let me correct what I wrote before you do :-). You did not of course say to not take the environment into account at all; you were speaking only about precedence in case of conflict. So my examples are not very pertinent. Still, I'd like to hear the reason for the inside-out precedence rule. (Again, I'm not arguing against it.)