From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: <bob@rattlesnake.com>, <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: customize-set-(value|variable) [was: apropos commands forcommands, user options, all functions, all variables]
Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 07:30:36 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACMEMDCEAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m1IrYUJ-002K4AC@rattlesnake.com>
> 1. Rename `customize-set-value' to `set-option', and
> `customize-set-variable' to `set-option-default' ...
>
> We don't currently suggest to users that they use those commands,
> so making them easier to use does not seem like an important goal.
>
> As a rule, no one ever should use the customize commands unless they
> are a novice or unless they do not understand a feature like fonts.
> They are to help, not to replace `setq'.
>
> The reason is that the customize commands provide even less an
> increment of knowledge than `setq' because they are so readily
> interactive and do not require additional knowledge. In a .emacs
> file, you must read the documentation on a variable although that
> often tells little. I fear that I still do not understand fonts
> because my interactions with them has been through customize ...
I don't know what to say, except that I disagree 100%.
An interactive function that provides completion and a degree of type
checking is much, much handier than using `setq' with `M-:'.
"As a rule, no one ever should use" rules like the one you propose, IMO.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-11-12 15:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-10-19 19:08 apropos commands for commands, user options, all functions, all variables Drew Adams
2007-10-19 20:24 ` Andreas Röhler
2007-10-19 20:42 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-21 6:40 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-10-21 7:26 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-21 20:41 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-22 0:55 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-23 0:35 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-23 7:11 ` Drew Adams
2007-10-26 3:48 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-26 22:43 ` Juri Linkov
2007-10-27 13:58 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-06 22:46 ` customize-set-(value|variable) [was: apropos commands for commands, user options, all functions, all variables] Drew Adams
2007-11-11 21:11 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-11 21:34 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-12 0:43 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-12 0:58 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-12 5:59 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12 12:33 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-12 15:30 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2007-11-12 17:10 ` customize-set-(value|variable) [was: apropos commands forcommands, " Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-12 19:23 ` customize-set-(value|variable) [was: apropos commandsforcommands, " Drew Adams
2007-11-12 20:32 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-10-23 7:12 ` apropos commands for commands, user options, all functions, all variables Richard Stallman
2007-10-25 20:59 ` Juri Linkov
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