From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Simple Tasks, new TODO category Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:45:13 -0800 Message-ID: References: <479A0C95.3030104@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1201279564 14204 80.91.229.12 (25 Jan 2008 16:46:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 25 Jan 2008 16:46:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Dan Nicolaescu , =?UTF-8?Q?Jan_Dj=C3=A4rv?= , "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Jason Rumney" , Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jan 25 17:46:22 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JIRh2-0005hQ-0h for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 17:46:16 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JIRgb-0004uR-RM for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:45:49 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JIRgX-0004tv-Ft for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:45:45 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1JIRgX-0004tY-0i for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:45:45 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1JIRgW-0004tV-Ra for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:45:44 -0500 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JIRgS-0003GU-Fw; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 11:45:40 -0500 Original-Received: from rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (rgmgw1.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.110]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id m0PGjO8V004835; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 10:45:24 -0600 Original-Received: from rcsmt251.oracle.com (rcsmt251.oracle.com [148.87.90.196]) by rgmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id m0PCIUoB004723; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 09:45:13 -0700 Original-Received: from inet-141-146-46-1.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3537252971201279511; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:45:11 -0800 Original-Received: from dradamslap1 (/141.144.73.144) by bhmail.oracle.com (Oracle Beehive Gateway v4.0) with ESMTP ; Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:45:11 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <479A0C95.3030104@gnu.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:87495 Archived-At: > > A non-printable seems very obscure, though. I'd think using a = (seldom) > > printable (with a way to escape it, of course) might be more = friendly. > > Why not use underscore, as GTK does (and translate appropriately to = the > > target platform)? > > XEmacs uses %_, which is even less likely to be used in a menu item=20 > name, and has the benefit of not appearing in any key binding so we=20 > wouldn't have to do any escaping of key bindings that are = automatically=20 > added to the menu. Sorry to chime in once more, but I again get the impression that you are = speaking about giving a special interpretation to a displayable = character that might appear in a menu item, and that you are trying to = find a character or string that is "less likely to be used in a menu = item name". If so, that's a mistake. Please don't make any assumptions about which = (displayable) characters might be used in a menu item. Such assumptions = are naive or misguided. Find some other mechanism; don't rely on people = not including some particular character (or string) in item names. And again, if I'm misunderstanding, please ignore.