From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: Scratch buffer annoyance Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:41:11 -0700 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1185133359 3183 80.91.229.12 (22 Jul 2007 19:42:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 19:42:39 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: "Juri Linkov" , "Dieter Wilhelm" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jul 22 21:42:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IChK7-0000KI-Qx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 21:42:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IChK7-0006Mu-9Z for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:42:35 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IChK4-0006MZ-G5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IChK2-0006MG-Ra for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:42:32 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IChK2-0006MD-MM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:42:30 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IChK2-0007ht-5n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 15:42:30 -0400 Original-Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l6MJgK2r025984; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 14:42:20 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id l6MIx0kE007768; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 13:42:19 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-64-112.vpn.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3060512301185133278; Sun, 22 Jul 2007 12:41:18 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:75320 Archived-At: 1. We can drop the verbs "Create", "Visit", and "Read", and we can drop "Emacs": [New File] [Directory] [Scratch Lisp Buffer] [Tutorial] [FAQ] [Manual] [Customize Startup Display] 2. I don't use Emacs as a Web browser, so I don't know how feasible or how useful this might be (e.g. current status of w3), but if it makes sense we could also add a [URL] link, to a (customizable) URL. The default value could be http://www.gnu.org/software/emacs. We could then also add a URL choice to the possibilities for `visit-on-startup'. That way, if a user used Emacs itself as a Web browser, then s?he could choose to start Emacs on a Web page (browser home page).