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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Bastien" <bzg@altern.org>, <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: New keybinding suggestion: C-x _ for `shrink-window'
Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2007 07:28:10 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACIEGICEAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87prysd8n6.fsf@bzg.ath.cx>

> >> I think that is worth trying.  To make it convenient we need
> >> a key binding for window-resize.  How about C-x _?
> >
> > FWIW - This is trivial to do with Do Re Mi. Function `doremi' lets you
> > increment or decrement anything repeatedly, using the arrow keys or a
> > mouse wheel (or both). It is made for this kind of thing.
>
> I tested it and it worked okay.  But:
> 1. why using the <up> arrow key to increment the window vertical size?

You can use any key you want. By default, the `up' key increases a value,
and `down' decreases it.

In some cases, it is more logical (can seem more natural) to have `up'
decrease a value - for example, when it decreases frame height (it moves the
frame bottom up). In some cases, it is more logical to have `left' and
`right' increase/decrease a value - for example, to move a frame left/right
or to resize it horizontally.

When two dimensions are used, as for window or frame resizing or frame
positioning, it makes sense to have up/down do something vertical and
left/right do something horizontal.

In this case, if you prefer to use `up' to decrement instead of increment,
that might seem natural for a bottom window (the window bottom moves up) but
unnatural for a top or middle window. It can depend on whether you want to
think in terms of a particular window border moving (up/down) or the window
height/width increasing/decreasing. I chose `up' for increasing window
size - that makes sense for any window.

But again, choose whatever keys you like. To reverse the direction, replace
nil in the call to `doremi' by (- increment). To use `left'/`right', just
`let'-bind the key variables, as in the code I sent for
`window-resize-horizontally'.

(BTW, holding Meta down while you use the arrow keys or mouse wheel gives a
boost, multiplying the increment so change is quicker.)

> 2. It doesn't really take care of what border do you want to act on.

I don't know what you mean by "take care of what border". No, it simply
resizes the window, by calling `shrink-window(-horizontally)'. If that
function is not what you want, then use another that does what you want.

>    The `resize-window' I proposed in this thread, while definitely ugly,
>    moves the left border when you use the left key `l', the right border
>    when you use the right key `r', etc.  It is the most usable solution
>    I've tested so far.

Nothing wrong with that, if that's what you want.

My point was that Do Re Mi is completely general. You can use it to
increase/decrease anything incrementally (or use it to cycle among
enumeration values).

In this case, there was an existing incrementator, `shrink-window'
ready-to-hand. But Do Re Mi is just as easy to use if there is only an
absolute setting function instead of an incrementor. For example, you can
pass it a function that simply sets the window size, instead of incrementing
it - Do Re Mi will then take do the incrementing itself.

  reply	other threads:[~2007-11-02 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 163+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-10-28 10:39 New keybinding suggestion: C-x _ for `shrink-window' Bastien
2007-10-28 10:41 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-28 12:06   ` Bastien
2007-10-28 11:21     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-28 14:40       ` Bastien
2007-10-28 20:20         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-28 21:47           ` Bastien
2007-10-28 21:47           ` Bastien
2007-10-28 22:05             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-29  0:03             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-29  8:43               ` Bastien
2007-10-29  0:11 ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-29 13:14   ` Bastien
2007-10-31 11:57   ` Bastien
2007-10-31 11:58   ` Bastien
2007-10-31 15:54     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-10-31 16:18       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-10-31 17:31         ` Bastien
2007-10-31 23:58         ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-01  0:26           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-01  1:14             ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-01  1:28               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-01  1:46                 ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-01  2:17                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-01  3:41               ` Bastien
2007-11-01  1:13           ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-01 19:04             ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-03 21:56           ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-11-04  1:41             ` Andreas Schwab
2007-11-04  2:49               ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-11-04 19:56             ` Richard Stallman
2007-10-31 16:20       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-10-31 23:58       ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-01 16:54         ` Drew Adams
2007-11-01 22:01           ` Drew Adams
2007-11-01 22:27             ` David Kastrup
2007-11-01 23:05               ` Drew Adams
2007-11-02 14:28           ` Bastien
2007-11-02 14:28             ` Drew Adams [this message]
2007-11-03  0:20               ` Bastien
2007-11-03  3:58             ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-03  4:14               ` Miles Bader
2007-11-03  5:46                 ` Bastien
2007-11-03  5:35                   ` Miles Bader
2007-11-03 14:11                     ` Bastien
2007-11-03 15:15                   ` Drew Adams
2007-11-03 16:43                     ` Bastien
2007-11-03 16:43                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-04  0:11                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-05  3:30                   ` Bastien
2007-11-05  7:37                     ` Drew Adams
2007-11-05 11:06                       ` Bastien
2007-11-08 15:32                       ` Bastien
2007-11-10  1:09                         ` Drew Adams
2007-11-10  1:11                           ` Drew Adams
2007-11-11  5:00                           ` Bastien
2007-11-11  8:42                             ` Drew Adams
2007-11-11 17:17                               ` Bastien
2007-11-11 17:26                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-11 23:54                                   ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12  0:07                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-11-12  3:20                                       ` Bastien
2007-11-12  2:55                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-11-12  4:18                                           ` Bastien
2007-11-12 11:47                                           ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-12 13:47                                             ` Bastien
2007-11-12 19:03                                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-12 21:20                                                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-12 21:31                                                 ` Drew Adams
2007-11-12 22:09                                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-12 22:51                                                     ` Drew Adams
2007-11-14  0:26                                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-16 23:49                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-11-17  1:36                                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-17  9:09                                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-11-17 15:44                                                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-17 17:28                                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-11-12 21:41                                                 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-12 22:15                                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-13 13:40                                                 ` Bastien
2007-11-13 17:51                                                   ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-14  0:58                                                     ` Bastien
2007-11-14  2:48                                                     ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-14  8:45                                                       ` Juanma Barranquero
2007-11-13 23:52                                                   ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-14  1:05                                                     ` Bastien
2007-11-12 17:18                                       ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12 17:28                                         ` Drew Adams
2007-11-11 14:02                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-11 17:11                               ` Bastien
2007-11-11 19:33                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12  3:19                               ` Bastien
2007-11-12 17:18                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-13 13:25                                   ` Bastien
2007-11-13 18:49                                     ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-14  0:27                                       ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-14 14:41                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-14  1:14                                       ` Bastien
2007-11-14  1:56                                         ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-11-15 20:52                                           ` Bastien
2007-11-15 20:57                                             ` Bastien
     [not found]                                             ` <473CBBA7.8090507@gmail.com>
2007-11-16 12:39                                               ` Bastien
2007-11-14 17:53                                         ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-14 18:12                                           ` Bastien
     [not found]                                             ` <473B7CDD.4040401@gmail.com>
2007-11-15 21:05                                               ` Bastien
2007-11-15 21:38                                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-15 22:27                                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-16 12:41                                                     ` Bastien
2007-11-16 21:52                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-17  0:10                                                         ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-17  1:45                                                           ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-17  9:28                                                             ` martin rudalics
2007-11-17 11:58                                                               ` Bastien
2007-11-17  2:17                                                         ` Bastien
2007-11-17  9:09                                                           ` Drew Adams
2007-11-17 12:08                                                             ` Bastien
2007-11-17 17:28                                                               ` Drew Adams
2007-11-18  0:10                                                                 ` Bastien
2007-11-19  1:20                                                                   ` Drew Adams
2007-11-19  2:45                                                                     ` Bastien
2007-11-19  6:48                                                                       ` Drew Adams
2007-11-17 15:59                                                             ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-17 16:34                                                               ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-17 16:38                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-17 17:25                                                                   ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-17 23:52                                                                   ` Bastien
2007-11-17 23:51                                                               ` Bastien
2007-11-18  0:16                                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-18  2:16                                                                   ` Bastien
2007-11-18  2:31                                                                     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-18 12:04                                                                       ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-19  2:23                                                                         ` Bastien
2007-11-14 23:09                                           ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-14 23:46                                           ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-15  0:21                                             ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-15  1:08                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-15  8:29                                                 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-11-16  1:16                                                 ` Juri Linkov
2007-11-16 12:58                                                   ` Bastien
2007-11-16 15:47                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-16 17:13                                                       ` Bastien
2007-11-16 18:17                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-16 19:19                                                           ` Bastien
2007-11-16 21:48                                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-17  2:26                                                               ` Bastien
2007-11-17  4:22                                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-17 11:54                                                                   ` Bastien
2007-11-18  3:09                                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2007-11-19  2:30                                                                       ` Bastien
2007-11-15 13:07                                               ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-15 13:07                                             ` Richard Stallman
     [not found]                         ` <E1Ir5H0-0002Ty-Jz@fencepost.gnu.org>
2007-11-11 17:10                           ` Bastien
2007-11-11 23:54                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12  3:33                               ` Bastien
2007-11-12 17:18                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-13 13:27                                   ` Bastien
2007-11-11 23:54                             ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-12  3:36                               ` Bastien
2007-11-18 22:46                                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-19  2:34                                   ` Bastien
2007-11-02 16:51       ` Sascha Wilde
2007-10-31 23:58     ` Richard Stallman
2007-11-01  6:30       ` David Kastrup

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