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From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: <rms@gnu.org>
Cc: juri@jurta.org, lennart.borgman@gmail.com,
	monnier@iro.umontreal.ca, emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: RE: generate 3) S-mouse-2: follow link in new window
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2007 14:21:02 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACIEDICDAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1IZsXY-0002Cc-5F@fencepost.gnu.org>

>     "Bearable" and getting "bitten on a somewhat regular basis" hardly
>     constitute a ringing endorsement. I wouldn't buy an insect
>     repellent based on that testimonial. ;-)
>
> This feature was set up as it is to provide compatibility with many
> other graphical interfaces.  We expected this to be good for
> beginners.  If helps beginners start using Emacs, it is worth keeping.
> Experienced people can customize it.
>
> Whether it really achieves that goal, I don't know.  It would be nice
> to get some real data about that, but that is not a trivial task.

Here's a thought -

Have `ask' be the default value of `mouse-1-click-follows-link', and have a
behavior similar to that of `disable-command':

If the value is `ask', then the first time (only) that a user clicks a link
with `mouse-1', s?he is asked this:

 "You have clicked a link using `mouse-1'. In Emacs, clicking
 `mouse-2' follows links, and `mouse-1' has other uses.
 Do you also want clicking `mouse-1' to follow links?"

If the answer is "yes", then the value is changed to 450 (the current
default value). Otherwise, it is changed to nil. The new value is saved
(Customize). A message echoes the new value and the option name, for future
reference.

This behavior has these advantages:

* It tells the user which button `mouse-1' is ("You have clicked...").

* It makes the user aware of what the choices are and what the variable is
that governs them.

* It requires an explicit user choice. It does so at the right time: first
link click.

* It states that `mouse-2' is standard for following links and it will
continue to follow links in any case. It does not explicitly refer to any
disadvantages for `mouse-1' following links, but `mouse-2' as the "standard"
might lead some new users to give it a try. Many new users are open to
learning the Emacs way.

* It has zero impact on anyone who has already customized the option. It has
negligeable impact on anyone who has not - a user need answer the question
at most once.

WDOT?

  reply	other threads:[~2007-09-27 21:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-09-23  9:47 generate 1) virtual index and 2) other pages for Info; 3) S-mouse-2: follow link in new window Drew Adams
2007-09-23 11:09 ` Bastien
2007-09-23 12:03   ` generate 2) other pages for Info Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 12:38     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-09-23 14:17     ` Bastien
2007-09-23 19:18       ` Eli Zaretskii
2007-09-24  0:27         ` Bastien
2007-09-23 21:54     ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-23 11:41 ` generate 1) virtual index Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 16:43   ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 20:42     ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-24  7:09       ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 11:45 ` generate 2) other pages for Info Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 12:00 ` generate 3) S-mouse-2: follow link in new window Juri Linkov
2007-09-23 16:44   ` Drew Adams
2007-09-23 19:14     ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-09-23 20:42       ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24  0:20         ` Johan Bockgård
2007-09-24  1:22         ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-24  2:01           ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:20             ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-27 21:21               ` Drew Adams [this message]
2007-09-27 21:34                 ` David Kastrup
2007-09-27 21:34                 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-09-27 21:41                   ` Drew Adams
2007-09-27 21:53                 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-28 19:04                 ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-28 19:33                   ` Drew Adams
2007-09-28 22:22                     ` David Kastrup
2007-09-30  2:19                       ` Drew Adams
2007-09-30  8:54                         ` David Kastrup
2007-09-30 23:37                           ` Drew Adams
2007-09-30 23:49                             ` David Kastrup
2007-10-01  1:36                           ` Richard Stallman
2007-09-25 23:39     ` info.el patch to open node in new window [was: generate 3) S-mouse-2: follow link in new window] Drew Adams
2007-09-26  8:56       ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-26 15:02         ` Drew Adams
2007-09-29 22:44           ` info.el patch to open node in new window Juri Linkov
2007-09-30  2:19             ` Drew Adams
2007-09-29 22:41     ` generate 3) S-mouse-2: follow link " Juri Linkov
2007-09-30  2:19       ` Drew Adams
2007-09-29 22:43 ` Juri Linkov
2007-09-30  2:18   ` Drew Adams
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2007-09-24 17:10 Davis Herring
2007-09-24 17:22 ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 18:33   ` Davis Herring
2007-09-24 21:30     ` Drew Adams
2007-09-24 19:27 ` David Kastrup

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