From: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" <lennart.borgman@gmail.com>
Cc: "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen@xemacs.org>,
Emacs-Devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: RE: always put Customizations in `custom-file', never in `user-init-file'
Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 15:44:11 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <BNELLINCGFJLDJIKDGACGELPCFAA.drew.adams@oracle.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <475DC998.5050205@gmail.com>
> > `custom-file' would be loaded explicitly:
> > (load-file custom-file). Just as it is now. All I
> > proposed was that any Customize stuff currently in
> > `user-init-file' should be moved to `custom-file'.
>
> If custom-file is not loaded by default then it makes it even more
> difficult for users
Makes what more difficult for users? More difficult than what?
`custom-file' has never been loaded automatically. Why propose that? What
problem would that solve?
> so I think it have to be loaded by default.
Why?
When would you load it, wrt loading `user-init-file'? Before? After? In the
middle somewhere?
What would you do if the `user-init-file' or some file it loads has an
explicit (load-file `custom-file')? What if the automatic load had already
happened?
Users should be able to control when Customize customizations take place.
Loading `custom-file' automatically would reduce their control. That would
be a drastic, and negative, change from the current behavior.
> If something has to be done before custom-file I would prefer a separate
> file, .pre-custom-emacs or something. The only thing I believe would
> have to go there is actually the name of custom-file (if the user wants
> to change it).
That way lies madness...
How can you decide (for all users?) what "would have to go there" or when
`custom-file' should be loaded?
We need only two files: `user-init-file' and `custom-file'. The former
should be for users to edit (possibly to load other files). Editing the
latter should be discouraged: normally, users should not need to open
`custom-file' in an editor.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-10 23:44 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 44+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-10 19:02 always put Customizations in `custom-file', never in `user-init-file' Drew Adams
2007-12-10 19:21 ` Eric Hanchrow
2007-12-10 20:30 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-10 21:19 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-10 21:25 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-10 22:12 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-10 22:35 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-10 23:09 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-10 23:19 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-10 23:44 ` Drew Adams [this message]
2007-12-11 0:05 ` Jason Rumney
2007-12-11 0:16 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-10 22:56 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-10 23:06 ` David Kastrup
2007-12-11 0:07 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-10 23:08 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 0:31 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-10 22:08 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-10 23:45 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-11 0:14 ` Lennart Borgman (gmail)
2007-12-11 1:04 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-11 6:05 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 0:47 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 2:20 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-11 6:15 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 9:53 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-11 16:57 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-12 10:00 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2007-12-12 16:31 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 19:01 ` Richard Stallman
2007-12-11 19:12 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-10 21:58 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 4:00 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-12-11 6:04 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 14:52 ` Stefan Monnier
2007-12-11 16:58 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 22:12 ` David Kastrup
2007-12-10 22:07 ` Jason Rumney
2007-12-10 23:08 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 3:02 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-12-11 6:06 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 11:39 ` Robert J. Chassell
2007-12-11 16:58 ` Drew Adams
2007-12-11 19:00 ` Richard Stallman
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