From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: always put Customizations in `custom-file', never in `user-init-file' Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:58:22 -0800 Message-ID: References: <475DA1D2.7020701@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1197323951 23472 80.91.229.12 (10 Dec 2007 21:59:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 21:59:11 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs-Devel To: "Lennart Borgman \(gmail\)" Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Dec 10 22:59:21 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1J1qed-00049N-9V for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 22:59:11 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1qeL-0004jJ-KO for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:58:53 -0500 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J1qeI-0004j4-Kk for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:58:50 -0500 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1J1qeG-0004iN-A6 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:58:49 -0500 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1J1qeG-0004iI-2T for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:58:48 -0500 Original-Received: from rgminet01.oracle.com ([148.87.113.118]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1J1qeG-0002Yx-9n for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 16:58:48 -0500 Original-Received: from agmgw1.us.oracle.com (agmgw1.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.212]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id lBALwViP021964; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:58:31 -0700 Original-Received: from acsmt351.oracle.com (acsmt351.oracle.com [141.146.40.151]) by agmgw1.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id lBAJBdgH024044; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:58:29 -0700 Original-Received: from dhcp-4op11-4op12-west-130-35-178-158.us.oracle.com by acsmt351.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3427715141197323899; Mon, 10 Dec 2007 13:58:19 -0800 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <475DA1D2.7020701@gmail.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3198 X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-detected-kernel: by monty-python.gnu.org: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:84980 Archived-At: > Great. And I guess custom-file should be run after .emacs, since that > makes it possible to chose another custom-file. No, I think `custom-file' should continue to be loaded only upon explicit request, never automatically. You should be able to put (load-file custom-file) wherever you like - the order can sometimes be important. If an old `user-init-file' already has Customizations, then the explicit (load-file custom-file) should replace them at the same location. If it happens (would it?) that an old `user-init-file' has Customizations, but other code is intermingled with them (e.g. custom-set-variables, then some other, non-customize stuff, then customize-set-faces), then the user should be informed and have to decide what to do to remedy the situation.