From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Drew Adams" Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: RE: New start up splash screen annoyance... Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:42:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87lkb0ouph.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1190396637 10218 80.91.229.12 (21 Sep 2007 17:43:57 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 17:43:57 +0000 (UTC) To: Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 21 19:43:56 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IYmXj-00038Y-82 for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 19:43:55 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IYmXh-0004tA-5u for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:43:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IYmXd-0004qQ-9v for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:43:49 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1IYmXb-0004nQ-LT for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:43:48 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1IYmXb-0004n1-HM for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:43:47 -0400 Original-Received: from agminet01.oracle.com ([141.146.126.228]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS-1.0:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:32) (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1IYmXb-0004pJ-2e for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 13:43:47 -0400 Original-Received: from rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (rgmgw2.us.oracle.com [138.1.186.111]) by agminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.7) with ESMTP id l8LHhild019920 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 12:43:44 -0500 Original-Received: from acsmt350.oracle.com (acsmt350.oracle.com [141.146.40.150]) by rgmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.2.4) with ESMTP id l8LAkiXr004062 for ; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 11:43:43 -0600 Original-Received: from dhcp-amer-csvpn-gw1-141-144-68-114.vpn.oracle.com by acsmt350.oracle.com with ESMTP id 3233175261190396563; Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:42:43 -0700 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 In-Reply-To: <87lkb0ouph.fsf@bzg.ath.cx> X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Detected-Kernel: Linux 2.4-2.6 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:79460 Archived-At: > > We could also consider having *several messages*, each of them being > > displayed for a few seconds (say 2). > > > > It is the best trade-off I can think of: > > > > - it lets Emacs display a file when given as an argument; > > - it lets Emacs display *all* the information you want; > > - it catches the attention of the new users more efficiently. > > Does anyone here agree that *several* echo-area messages, > persistently displayed one by one at a small time interval, > would catch beginners attention more efficiently than the > current static buffer solution ? B u r m a S h a v e ! Yes! Criss-cross the globe with tiny Emacs-noob GNU ads every few kilometers. Raise swarms of balloons and blimps (hot-air, naturally) showing sparkling, flashing mission statements, household tips, and other useful GNU reminders. Drones and nano-copters too, indoors and out. Paint barns, sky write, and drape bunting to celebrate: "The new GNU Emacs is here!", "Le nouveau GNU Emacs est arrive!", and "Surrender Dorothy!". (oops?) GNU satellites orbiting our everwarming Mother Earth, beaming "Welcome!" messages every few minutes to text-messaging teenie noobs and helpful NEWS updates to their TeX-massaging forbears. Marching bands and pop singers to visit every village and proclaim proudly "GNUness Is GOOD For You", "GNU The Beautiful", "Onward GNUian Soldiers!", "GNU Is Great", "There is Only One GNU, and Its Name Is GNU", and of course (our anthem) "GNU Is Not UNIX". (UNIX? What's that?) Instead of an ordinary checkbox to "See this nevermore" (too easy!), let 'em wander the Info Desert without water in search of h o w t o t u r n i t o f f. That'll teach 'em to quickly come of age and metamorphose out of their larval noobness. Only the first of many holy GNU grails: Try to banish the splash! Just try it. And certainly not a hint about it in the Tutorial. For ex-noobs, proud bumper stickers: "I banished it", "I survived the Splash!", "I GNU I could do it", "My child is an honor Emacs ex-noob", and "Emacs ex-noob on board". Do we have an award for the longest (and splashiest) emacs-devel thread? How long can we keep this one going? Don't break the chain, or bad luck will be visited upon you.